18 mph under sail. Can it be done?
- Newell
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17 mph under sail
Performance Nuts,
I ran my boat wing on wing without ballast and got hit with a microburst. I measure in knots and the GPS hit 7.3 just before the boat broached, since I had lost steering, sort of like steering a car on ice the experience was scary. If I hadn't of had a death grip on the wheel I would have been thrown out.
I think 17 mph is Roger's fantasy.
Newell
Fast Sunday 96X
I ran my boat wing on wing without ballast and got hit with a microburst. I measure in knots and the GPS hit 7.3 just before the boat broached, since I had lost steering, sort of like steering a car on ice the experience was scary. If I hadn't of had a death grip on the wheel I would have been thrown out.
I think 17 mph is Roger's fantasy.
Newell
Fast Sunday 96X
- delevi
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Newell,
What you're describing has happened to me a number of times. I believe the reason for this is the relatively light stern and the lever effect strong wind has on a mainsail which is way out there (sheeted for a downwind run.) The only cure I can come up with is either reefing the main or dropping it alltogether and running under headsail only. With enough breeze on a broad reach or run, I think I would prefer just the spinnaker and no mainsail. The 18 mph is still likely unattainable, but I want to see how close I can get.
Leon
What you're describing has happened to me a number of times. I believe the reason for this is the relatively light stern and the lever effect strong wind has on a mainsail which is way out there (sheeted for a downwind run.) The only cure I can come up with is either reefing the main or dropping it alltogether and running under headsail only. With enough breeze on a broad reach or run, I think I would prefer just the spinnaker and no mainsail. The 18 mph is still likely unattainable, but I want to see how close I can get.
Leon
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I was out of sailing for several years. A promise I made to God if I made it through a storm at sea.
I had a powerboat, the front of which is now my desk at my shop, on the lake I live on.
The problem was the speed limit to go under a bridge was 6 m.p.h.
So, I had to speed up just to go under a bridge.
I prefersailing.
I had a powerboat, the front of which is now my desk at my shop, on the lake I live on.
The problem was the speed limit to go under a bridge was 6 m.p.h.
So, I had to speed up just to go under a bridge.
I prefersailing.
- Dimitri-2000X-Tampa
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Cool video. I wonder .... if you had a couple nice blade sails and a whole heck of a lot of wind on a beam reach. Make it an offshore wind to keep the waves down too. When I've been out in strong winds, the waves always spoil the fun.
I went out last Saturday as a cold front was approaching. When I first went out, the wind was barely registering on the wind meter..maybe 6 mph. An hour later, the wind had picked up big time and I was measuring gusts up to 25 (was even windier later that evening). Of course, I had 3 kids on board so couldn't get too radical (they start slipping off the seats). But even with just the main and a little bit of the genny to keep heel down, I was into that semi displacement mode ... around 7.5 mph. You keep this boat standing up in a stiff wind and it sails pretty well. Too much twist in the stock main though...these sails are not really made for high winds.
I went out last Saturday as a cold front was approaching. When I first went out, the wind was barely registering on the wind meter..maybe 6 mph. An hour later, the wind had picked up big time and I was measuring gusts up to 25 (was even windier later that evening). Of course, I had 3 kids on board so couldn't get too radical (they start slipping off the seats). But even with just the main and a little bit of the genny to keep heel down, I was into that semi displacement mode ... around 7.5 mph. You keep this boat standing up in a stiff wind and it sails pretty well. Too much twist in the stock main though...these sails are not really made for high winds.
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Well Beene
When you tire of trying to catch my surfing pony "m" I'll clue you in . # 1 mod that Roger gave me over you guy's is a 17degree semi v hull with hard chines. Doing away with the hard chines on the 26X with a flat bottom hull was a cost cutting mod . Then when Roger came out with the 26M he went back to a 15degree semi round hull . The hard chines are just to costly to impliment . But if you get in behind my draft & wake I'll glady give you some slip stream & dragg you along for the ride be like I was pulling a wake board behind me oh yeh make shure you got a wet suite on all that spray from my boat gonna get you mighty wetttttttttttt ?
soon to be burning up the lake MWM
John
When you tire of trying to catch my surfing pony "m" I'll clue you in . # 1 mod that Roger gave me over you guy's is a 17degree semi v hull with hard chines. Doing away with the hard chines on the 26X with a flat bottom hull was a cost cutting mod . Then when Roger came out with the 26M he went back to a 15degree semi round hull . The hard chines are just to costly to impliment . But if you get in behind my draft & wake I'll glady give you some slip stream & dragg you along for the ride be like I was pulling a wake board behind me oh yeh make shure you got a wet suite on all that spray from my boat gonna get you mighty wetttttttttttt ?
soon to be burning up the lake MWM
John
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eric3a wrote:One can get very religious in big weather!
Amen to that!beene wrote:Once you've been there.... you will always remember it.
At least we have motors.
A couple of decades back (pre children), we were sailing in a lake in upstate NY in our Phantom (similar to Sunfish, but better ) when a storm suddenly came over us. We were sailing with friends who had a Sunfish. Sky got dark suddenly. There were high trees all around so we could not see the horizon. Rain, wind, lightning. I should have written that as LIGHTNING!, and no motor Water got rough, but that lightning! As I think back on it now I just shake my head and remember that I don't ever wish to go through that again.
Ray
18 mph under sail. Can it be done?
(15 kts in a trailerable pocket cruiser?)
Yep, sure it can!
(no trapeze req'd)
Strictly Sail Pacific
(15 kts in a trailerable pocket cruiser?)
Yep, sure it can!
(no trapeze req'd)
Strictly Sail Pacific