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BOAT
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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by BOAT » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:27 pm

there is no secret unfortunately - either your into it or your not. it's like sea sickness - there are two kinds of people - those who get sea sickness and those who don't.'

my dad was one of those guys that had never been sea sick in his entire life. i meet people out in the ocean all the time that have never been sea sick ever. when i go to Catalina and meet other boat owners i find that most of the older guys have never been sea sick ever. those people never complain about their boats being "tender" no matter how bad the weather is. My dad sailed on schedule no matter what - he paid no attention to the weather - to him it was what it was - he just went out anyways - I thought he was crazy.

my wife and i are rare ones - we do get sea sick in the beginning of the season sometimes and then after a few trips out it goes away - we have what they call "fishermans sea sickness". we never throw up - it just makes our tummy hurt for the first day and goes away after that. in the beginning of the season we are a bit cautious avoiding 6 foot seas but after a few trips out we don't even notice 10 foot swells anymore. Last year at the island there was a 5 foot surge swell at anchor and my wife complained about the anchor line yanking on the boat - nothing about the actual surge swell. It just feels natural after a while - she says it's the best sleep ever.

If you never get sick you probably don't care about the bumpiness and rolling (like most the people on this site) - some people like my wife and i will push through the discomfort and prevail and some will not. if you are a 'will not' person then you probably don't really belong on a boat - ANY boat.

if your forcing yourself it's probably not the right activity for you.

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by disciplefk » Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:38 pm

Oh - I am all in! I am fortunate enough to be one of those that never gets seasick. I get a little nervous about spinning around in weather I should not be out in, but luckily I am not making the deck slippery with vomit! The kids are seemingly unaffected. My wife can handle being in the cockpit, but she gets a bit woozy when she goes below while we are underway.

It was funny - I was trying to talk the kids into buying a tube while we were out this weekend for their benefit. Just as I was mentioning it, a powerboat went by with a giant couch strapped to the back. It flipped and scattered the riders all over. They promptly said no and went back to sulking :P

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by Bobsquatch » Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:43 am

It was funny - I was trying to talk the kids into buying a tube while we were out this weekend for their benefit. Just as I was mentioning it, a powerboat went by with a giant couch strapped to the back. It flipped and scattered the riders all over. They promptly said no and went back to sulking :P
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Ha! Timing, that's funny.

Buy a good tube, wait for good conditions (warm water, weather and calm seas) and take it easy on them. They will catch the bug. Also don't scare them in heavy traffic, pick your time.

Remember, first impressions... this could be your moment to win them over or lose their interest.

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by disciplefk » Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:49 pm

Not kicking a dead horse, just posting a resolution for future noobs. I did put an offer in on a hunter 33. If I can get it at a decent price, I think it will be a good fit. In the meantime though, I have learned to plan better and most importantly I learned that in many situations, the boat heels as much as you want it to. If it gets to be too much, just spill the wind from the sail and back up you go. Reefing early is also helpful. I know this isnt 'fun' sailing, but it helps with acclimating your nervous passengers.

This is obvious to any sailor with experience and I feel silly for not realizing it sooner, but it was something I did not know just starting out and it made my life much easier. This is not a solution for extreme conditions - you just don't do that in this boat.

I am almost hoping that the sale does not work out so that I can enjoy the mac a little longer!

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by dlandersson » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:38 am

A tube can be a lot of fun, especially if you start out slow and let them build up. One that allows 2+ people can let an adult ride with them until their confidence increases. It really can be a lot of fun for kids-teenagers. 8)
disciplefk wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:38 pm
Oh - I am all in! I am fortunate enough to be one of those that never gets seasick. I get a little nervous about spinning around in weather I should not be out in, but luckily I am not making the deck slippery with vomit! The kids are seemingly unaffected. My wife can handle being in the cockpit, but she gets a bit woozy when she goes below while we are underway.

It was funny - I was trying to talk the kids into buying a tube while we were out this weekend for their benefit. Just as I was mentioning it, a powerboat went by with a giant couch strapped to the back. It flipped and scattered the riders all over. They promptly said no and went back to sulking :P

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by Jimmyt » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:19 am

One cardinal rule of tubing. Don't get any closer to the shore, piers, or pilings than the length of your tow rope extended at a 90 deg angle to the side. A tube is not steerable, and can wind up literally anywhere the rope can reach, depending on how the boat is maneuvered, other boat wakes, etc. A tuber got killed this past weekend on Dog River because the driver got the tube too close to a pier. Horrible mistake.

A tube is a joyful thing to ride on a calm day. Respect the distance rule and let the kids give you thumbs up or down for speed control until they get comfortable. Use large radius turns at first. Tight turns can produce very rapid acceleration and literally whip the tube around the boat.

Sounds like you're getting the hang of the sailing thing. That's great. No matter what boatyou wind up with, if you're on the water, you win.

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by JCPH3 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:28 pm

Where are you sailing in Lake Erie that your getting 20mph winds and big waves?
Were sailing out of Brest Bay on the western shore and rarely see those conditions. Erie can get choppy due to its shallow depth but 3 footers are rare.
Make sure the ballast is completely full. A half filled tank is worse than no ballast. The Mac gives up those first 30 degrees pretty quickly, but usually will harden up at that point.
Stick to some lighter winds and get comfortable with a little tilt. Its actually a blast once your acclimated.

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Re: Upgrade already?

Post by dlandersson » Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:35 am

Actually no. A lot of people get seasick, then adjust. :wink:
BOAT wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:27 pm
there is no secret unfortunately - either your into it or your not. it's like sea sickness - there are two kinds of people - those who get sea sickness and those who don't.'

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