'Rogue' Waves..... yikes!

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'Rogue' Waves..... yikes!

Post by kmclemore »

Ummm... yeah... I think I'm gonna stick to rivers & lakes for a while.... :wink:

(orignal posting is on Yahoo News, here)

'Rogue waves' reported by mariners get scientific backing
Wed Jul 21, 1:07 PM ET

PARIS (AFP) - European satellites have given confirmation to terrified mariners who describe seeing freak waves as tall as 10-storey buildings, the European Space Agency (ESA) said.

"Rogue waves" have been the anecdotal cause behind scores of sinkings of vessels as large as container ships and supertankers over the past two decades. But evidence to support this has been sketchy, and many marine scientists have clung to statistical models that say monstrous deviations from the normal sea state only occur once every thousand years.

Testing this promise, ESA tasked two of its Earth-scanning satellites, ERS-1 and ERS-2, to monitor the oceans with their radar. The radars send back "imagettes" -- a picture of the sea surface in a rectangle measuring 10 by five kilometers (six by 2.5 miles) that is taken every 200 kms (120 miles). Around 30,000 separate "imagettes" were taken by the two satellites in a three-week project, MaxWave, that was carried out in 2001.

Even though the research period was brief, the satellites identified more than 10 individual giant waves around the globe that measured more than 25 metres (81.25 feet) in height, ESA said in a press release. The waves exist "in higher numbers than anyone expected," said Wolfgang Rosenthal, senior scientist with the GKSS Research Centre in Geesthacht, Germany, who pored over the data. "The next step is to analyse if they can be forecasted," he said.

Ironically, the research coincided with two "rogue wave" incidents in which two tourist cruisers, the Bremen and the Caledonian Star, had their bridge windows smashed by 30-metre (100-feet) monsters in the South Atlantic. The Bremen was left drifting without navigation or propulsion for two hours after the hit.

In 1995, the British cruise liner Queen Elizabeth II encountered a 29-metre (94.25-feet) wall of water during a hurricane in the North Atlantic. Its captain, Ronald Warwick, likened it to "the White Cliffs of Dover."

In the next phase of research, a project called Wave Atlas will use two years of "imagettes" to create a worldwide atlas of rogue wave events and carry out statistical analyses, ESA said. The goal is to find out how these strange, cataclysmic phenomena may be generated by ocean eddies and currents or by the collision of weather fronts, and which regions of the seas may be most at risk. Finding out could help ship architects and the designers of oil rigs and their operators to skirt the menace.
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I think I'd be more likely to be struck by lightning or win the lottery.
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(That's why I put in the 'wink', Dave.)
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Oh, I get it now.
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Rogue Wave

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My recollection is that the definition for Rogue Wave is when 2, or more waves join together and form one wave significantly higher than the one preceeding and following it. Obviously, some are larger than others.
I was on Lake Michigan on my 26X, with a following sea of 2 - 3 foot waves. I happened to be looking aft over my shoulder when I saw what I estimate as a 10' wall of water. It lifted the boat up, went under me and continued on its way.
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Bill,
I am wondering if you waved hi or goodbye to it as it came along? Happy sails, Tony
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Post by Bill at BOATS 4 SAIL »

I didn't have time to say Hi. I held the wheel real tight and braced with my feet and legs. I only got knocked off course a few degrees. It all happened so quickly and unexpectedly, and then it was past.
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... and afterwards he quietly slipped below decks to change his underwear and take a quick shot of scotch...

(...at least, that's what I would have done!)
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Can attest from personal experience that a rogue wave can move an aircraft carrier enough to literally throw an F14 off the deck as it was taxing to the catapult. Good ol' Forrestal during the 78 Med cruise.
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After all the research they will probably find a way to blame them on SUVs. :D
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Rogue waves - on Lakes ? like Michigan, yes!

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I haven't sailed across any oceans where one might encounter rogue waves but I have sailed several thousand miles up and down the California coast as well as a few charters sprinkled about the world and I can tell you the worst waves I've ever experienced were on Lake Michigan!

While these 20 footers were created in part by the shallow water off Milwaukee, I have a tremendous respect for all the Great Lakes in this regard and given a preference, would gladly choose a gale in deep water over that incredibly steep, short chop. I guess it's reasonable to assume the Edmund Fitzgerald and many others may have gone down in these conditions. Hopefully these studies will someday aid in spotting and predicting not only rogue waves but saiches and tidal waves, etc.

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Tony D-26X_SusieQ wrote:After all the research they will probably find a way to blame them on SUVs. :D
Come on Tony!
Don't try to convince us you haven't noticed. By now everyone knows when you hear something like this you can quickly peek out the window and see your own SUV, just sitting there acting like nothing happened. Smiling that knowing smile and pretending it's really just a machine.

That's why we have to do something about it right now!
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