Question about 1999 hull/our first Mac! Also an introduction

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Re: Question about 1999 hull/our first Mac! Also an introduction

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Crikey wrote:Cat, considering the possible smallish differences in the TO boat (#3) and the US boat (#2) + border taxes and levees, I might be tempted to consider the 'motivated' owner in this case. Cosmetics aside, and discounting sweat equity it's a newer boat and engine - but I would personally want to have a second professional opinion about the engine condition. Hard to do a proper test at this time of the year, and it is one of the prime areas an owner's lack of maintenance, or incompetence, can cause big problems down the road!
The final sales receipt on which you'll do calculations for the tax department can be a thing Scrooge would be proud of. We (my whip bearing Admiral, and I) bought our new :macm: over the border at substantial savings, even after taxes - but that was what we wanted and not the same as your desire to have bigger savings on a 'used goods' deal.
Keep your eyes open for some group Lake Ontario activity this year - thinking 'Port Credit Shuffle' weekend.
Ross
K9Kampers, :-) You are refering to my cosmetic business right?! :D

Crikey....thanks for your advice. We are starting to lean heavily toward the one in Canada now. It's actually being stored in Port Credit, haha!
It's so close, less hassles, and less personalization, which is good because we love making things our own. Would love to get some pretty custom sails in the future, etc etc....

I have now asked about the trailer, it seems in decent condition. I am biting my nails....I want to put an offer in....


The one with the 1999 has not gotten back to me. I am still worried about the 'stress crack' thing....like it was mistreated. At least with the one in Canada everything is out in the open....dealer is honest about what needs to be done, and we don't have a problem with anything. With the conditions written in the agreement (motor and trailer especially) I feel a bit better about the entire thing. And dang it, it's soooo close by!!! With the 1999, things have been 'covered up'. I don't know if he's lying or not but I feel a bit in the dark with the whole thing....not sure what to think.

The 2000 has yet to get back to me....not sure if I should wait or what. I really need to figure this out....all my dreams consist of finding Mac and putting offers in! Grrr!
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Re: Question about 1999 hull/our first Mac! Also an introduction

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StarSpun wrote:
robbarnes1965 wrote:I have no idea about rules but I have the 5gal pp with the pumpout option here in Montreal, bought new in Hamilton. Works fine. Regular head with holding tank would likely be larger capacity and the head a little lower which is nice if you are tall.

Rob

Heya Rob, thanks for the info. A larger holding tank is always good:D Ha ha!
Checked our your blog btw. If we get our Mac maybe we'll run into ya out there somewhere! Not literally though, I hope.... :D
Would be a pleasure. We are getting to be a decent size Mac fleet out here.
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StarSpun wrote:
Crikey wrote:Cat, consider...
K9Kampers, :-) You are refering to my cosmetic business right?! :D

The 2000 has yet to get back to me....not sure if I should wait or what. I really need to figure this out....all my dreams consist of finding Mac and putting offers in! Grrr!

There is always going to be another boat, but I certinly appreceate your need for "now" I fought with this myself, and am very glad I waited untill I felt good about the boat I was buying.
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Catigale wrote:..I've done the Wilson NY to TO crossing a few times in decent weather in my :macx:
Brings back memories - - - as a teenager out of BUffalo, I spent many a summer day up around Wilson, Newfane, Olcott Beach, etc.

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Newest members has to buy the pizza. :P
StarSpun wrote:Salutations:-)

My name is Cat, and I'm new here! *waves*.

I've been lurking for some time to be honest....this forum has been a wealth of information which has aided my hubby and I in our search for our first MacGregor (we have decided on the X layout). We're pretty excited! Both of us have a background in boating....Bryans dad was a lobster fisherman and he used to work with him in the past. As for myself, I grew up in a family who had an addiction to powerboats;-) I spent a lot of my life on a boat of some sort, but only a small percentage of that was on a little sailboat (summer camp). We both kite surf (aka, we respect the wind!) and feel that learning to sail may just be right up our alley!

Not new to jumping into things like this....over 5 years ago we ditched our condo, sold most of our stuff and took off fulltime on an RV at the age of 25. It all happened within three months and we never looked back :) Our original plan was to fulltime on a boat, but we felt somewhat restricted by where we could go. I cannot tolerate winters, so like the wimpy Canadian I am, I get us down to Florida at the first sign of cold:D We have been talking about one day revisiting the fulltime boat thing (or at least wintering on one), and thought to for once start out slow (kinda) on a Mac:D

Just last year we bought a studio condo for my biz, but as it turns out, we LOVE being downtown Toronto again so spend the summers there, and keep the RV as a cottage just north of Toronto. (Guess we are 'halftime-3/4s RVers now, ha ha!). Being right by the water, we sit out watching the sailboats go by, getting all jealous and stuff. Hopefully this summer, we'll be the ones scooting around while others sit and watch and get ideas :D

Soooo, things have progressed from finding a cheaper older boat to going up a bit in price and looking at Macs between 1996-2002. Now I'm pretty stuck on 1999+.
There are three contenders as of now, and I have put in an offer for one of them. I have been reading about the changes through the years and I am curious if the 1999 I just put in an offer for has the upgraded hull. Can anyone shed some light on this?

The last part of the serial number is: L899
From my research, this means it was made in December 1998, but is a 1999 model. If anyone has any idea on what hull it is, that would be great! I am assuming the new one....but not sure....

Our first choice is this 1999 which is CLOSE to our route back home to Canada. It is listed as the most expensive, but I am working on getting it for a lower price since I think it may be a bit overpriced. From a dealer. Still waiting for the response and losing sleep :D It's super clean, always stored indoors, has only had one owner, and barely has a mark on it....even on the outside. Trailer is in fine condition, has a stove, pump out option (a must for us), a few extras. Nissan 50hp, also a 1999, runs perfect and recently tuned. Fresh water only. Sails are in fine condition.

Our second choice (and sometimes first depending when you ask us, ha ha!) is a 2000 which is pretty much directly on our route back home. The Motor is a Nissan, but is a year older than the boat....a 1999. Will be tuned up before it sells. This is the cheapest of the three. It is sold directly from the owner (he was the only owner) and he has maintained it well, and says it is 'immaculate'. It has no stove, but has the pump out option. The trailer is in good condition with a spare. The outside of it has an extra stripe of color to match the red on one of the sails. It's very original and beautiful. The pictures however, aren't great (bad quality), and while I know they can lie....I am pretty good about seeing through them;-) It has been stored in a fully enclosed garage completely wrapped up every winter. Fresh water only. Seems a lot of extras are included with this one. Sails in great condition.

The third choice is the second most expensive, but not by much. Seller is motivated!! This one is a 2001, however, and it is located IN Canada....actually 20 min down the road from us in the summer. It is in rougher shape. Not bad, but not as lovely as the other two cosmetic wise. It has been stored under shelter wrapped up every winter, but this winter it is wrapped up unsheltered outdoors at a boat sale yard. The man selling it (not the owner) is super cool and seems very honest about things. The bottom needs paint. The inside needs cleaned a bit to be perfect. There is a apparently a barely visible scratch on one side from a buckle of some sort, really don't care about that. It has the pump out option but with a toilet instead of a PP, which is nice. Motor is a 2001 Honda which the owner says runs fine (will be one of the many conditions). Fresh water only. Sails are with the owner and are in fine condition.

So those are the three we are working on. Since we are in Florida with the RV right now, we are going to see if we can have someone look at all of them before we decide. There will be conditions put in for whichever one we decide on....

Anyhoo, will update as things progress. If anyone has any idea on the hull issue for the 1999, let me know:D
Thanks again, and hope to be a part of this forum moreso in the future!
Cheers!
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The three black and grey stripes in the video are more than likely from BWY in Seattle, and only came with the super cruising or coastal cruising package. Might be able to get some info about the boat from them.
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Cat, I think I've seen that boat! Was there a name attached to it (Port Credit)?
:|
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yukonbob wrote:The three black and grey stripes in the video are more than likely from BWY in Seattle, and only came with the super cruising or coastal cruising package. Might be able to get some info about the boat from them.

I was thinking exactly that! May be able to find something out. Either way, he has not gotten back to me regarding my offer, so I think it's kinda out at this point....
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Crikey wrote:Cat, I think I've seen that boat! Was there a name attached to it (Port Credit)?
:|

I don't have the name of the actual owner, only of the marina/sales person selling it for the owner. Or do you mean the name of the boat? Toy Yot is her name.
If you have seen the boat before, let me know! I was going to have a friend look at it, just don't know who yet! If you have any info, that would be great:-)
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Sorry, not!
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Crikey wrote:Sorry, not!
:(

Awww darn! Ha ha!
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dlandersson wrote:Newest members has to buy the pizza. :P

Hey now!

Ok, only if you bring the wine 8)
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Short version of PP issue...on Lake Ontario, in Canadian waters, a ports-potto is required to have a deck pump out option.
This is about a 100 buck of, tops.

Without the pump out, you will be fined if you are inspected.

No such regs apply in US waters.
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Post office "wanted" poster? :wink:
StarSpun wrote:
Crikey wrote:Cat, I think I've seen that boat! Was there a name attached to it (Port Credit)?
:|
Toy Yot is her name. If you have seen the boat before, let me know! I was going to have a friend look at it, just don't know who yet! If you have any info, that would be great:-)
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Well....we decided on the one in Canada. Lucky we did, because neither of the others got back to me. Put our offer in today....and now we wait.
*bites nails*
*rips out hair*
*runs in circles*


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