Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

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Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Sovereign797 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:08 pm

My Mac 25 came to me already re-arranged by a previous owner and after playing with it for a few years I find I'm not using a lot of it and using others, some of it could be better, etc.

I'm looking for ideas on streamlining and improving the entire setup, from winch placement, pad eyes, fair leads, cleats, clams, sheeting, all of it. Post your setups, show them off, help me out with getting some ideas on adding and subtracting or moving what I have.

I've got most of it off atm, gonna do some painting and then put everything back. I do mostly weekend cruising the lakes but I am sort of interested in getting involved in some beer can racing after I did a season on another boat.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Freedom77 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:43 am

As with most anything K.I.S.S. Do you have pics of current setup?

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by WinSome » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:49 pm

I agree with Freedom 77. Tell us what’s working well. What you expecting out of your boat? Sail condition and setup? Where do you want it to be? I’ve a 26c and interested. What’s your budget?
First Let’s pick three best things to improve.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Sovereign797 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:33 pm

I'm looking for ideas from what others have done, thanks for the replies

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by dlandersson » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:22 am

Do you use a slip? One thing my PO did - and it gets a lot of positive comments - was to have a cleat amidships on the port side. Very handy when coming into my slip. I have a dock line attached to that, loop over a slip pole and voila! I'm secured and have plenty of time to do the usual for and aft dock lines. 8)

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Interim » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:42 pm

I replaced my bow and stern cleats with steel, and certainly like the idea of a cleat amidships. But I worry about stumbling over it. I typically tie a line from a stanchion to the dock cleat.

I put in jib cars and tracks last year, and I love them. It is a powerful control (we have a 135% genny).

I also put on bow chocks for anchoring, and a horn a little aft of the mast.

I'm in danger of violating the KISS rule. But I like to tinker.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by WinSome » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:11 pm

Can you feel more about your choice of horn and install? I’ve wanted to install one and want to keep it minimal.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by WinSome » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:22 am

On topic of deck hardware:
Here’s original pdf of rails and stanchions drawings
http://www.railmakers.com/yachts/macgre ... -24-25.htm
I’m ready to install a salvaged, modified stern rail on Winsome (26C) in the next weeks as I can’t sail as yet -southern Ontario-and stay isolated due to virus.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Interim » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:13 am

WinSome wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:11 pm
Can you feel more about your choice of horn and install? I’ve wanted to install one and want to keep it minimal.
Get on your favorite marine web site and find the two-horn system that people complain about (they say they deteriorate after 5-10 years). That's the one I got. It if dies in 7 years, it will be easy to replace. It has a nice pitch, and is loud enough for me. About $75 in my case.

I dropped the wire into the space above the salon (where my fuse panel is), and plugged it in to the panel. I ran the switch wire behind the seam between the upper and lower inner liners on starboard, into the lazarette, and mounted the pushbutton switch on the inboard side of the motor well. Easy to run the wire in this path. In that location, the switch is easily accessible to the helm.

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by WinSome » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm

Thanks for the horn info. Your switch location is confirmation of my plan. Puts it right where it can be instantly used. At local marine shop I inquired, and they figured there’s a lot of idiots out there who need to learn the ‘sound off’ rules.!

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Interim » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:35 am

I would agree. No one at my lake knows "taking you on my port side." But when they're backing off the ramp, right into my path, I find it more convenient to blow the horn than to yell.

I do get funny looks when I sound one for engine engaged, and three for operating astern, when I back out of my slip. But rules are rules :)


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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Sovereign797 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:37 pm

Interim, any pics of your new tracks/cars?

Does anyone change or add winch positions? Pros/cons?

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Interim » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:47 am

I will get a picture of my tracks and cars. Sorry for the delay.

I thought about (and continue to think about) moving my winches aft. The line angle (I think it is called the fleet angle) into the winch isn't that good, because i crowded it. I've added a fair lead to my track to help cure it.

It just seems like a mess to move the winches back. And expensive, if you buy new ones.

--john

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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Tomfoolery » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:36 am

Interim wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:47 am
I think it is called the fleet angle
It is in the crane and rigging business, which is what I've done for the last 40 years. Probably also for boats, too, since most crane and rigging terms originated with sailing vessels. :wink:
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Re: Looking for ideas Deck Hardware

Post by Interim » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:19 am

Below are a couple shots of my jib car and track on starboard.

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