sailboatmike wrote:cmagnus4 wrote:sailboatmike wrote:I always thought the idea was to get away from other people, more crowded there than living in a black of flats, not my idea of "getting away from it all"

This might be due to the big difference in population density: California 88,9 inhabitants/sq.km and Australia 3,17

While the population density of all of Australia is 3.17, 90% of the Australian population live in a small strip of coastline along the east coast.
The city I live in is 9,990 square kilometers and has over 4.7 million people, thats a population density of over 470 people per sq Kilometer, the city sits right on the 2 main boating areas
Australia may be a very large place with a small population but most of Australia is uninhabited, gee we have cattle stations the size of Texas in the outback
Catalina is mostly uninhabited - there are only about 3000 residents of the island and 99.9% of them are right there in Avalon. There are only 150 animals like the kind your referring to, (bison and cows and ranch animals and so forth). Last time I was there I took this picture of one of the animals:

Avalon is where all the tourist go - the population of Avalon triples every-time one of the cruise ships anchors off shore, but they only allow them to anchor for the day - no overnighters because there is not enough infrastructure on the entire island to accommodate even one cruise ship for the night. It's neat to see them pull in - last time I was at Catalina we parked 'boat' on a mooring in Avalon and grabbed a shuttle to the airport on top of the island on a road so bad it will shake your teeth right out of your mouth - I took a picture as we climbed out:

I like Catalina - but there are also many other islands very close within 24 hours sailing distance and less. Some islands out here have NO people, just animals, and others have only 2 or 4 people, and then some, like San Clemente Island which is only 50 miles off the coast of Oceanside here where I live is populated with only military people. That's another great place to go sailing. The military allows you to moor along the island in the north.
Sailing in the ocean exclusively like I do means i already am pretty isolated and do not get to see very many people or boats, so I sort of welcome the hub bub of the harbors and marinas after a long day of sailing all alone out in the middle of no where. I'm not a total sick loner.
Is it cold in Australia today?