I finally took the Plunge- New X Head Phase I

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Greg
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I finally took the Plunge- New X Head Phase I

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After despising the head and porta potty for the last 4 years, I decided to give the head a permanent toilet. After reviewing the options, I decided on the SEALAND Traveler with the attached 9 gallon holding tank and the new white finish. I also purchased a Jabsco Macerator and a stainless steel waste fill with flip up handle on the cap. We have never used the sink in the head and I have always seen it as an unnecessary luxury and a waste of space. I also found foot space lacking and the area cramped in general.
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First I set the new toilet facing rearward and wasn’t too happy about having less foot room. After much contemplation, I decided to cut out the old sink assembly.

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I am very pleased with the results so far.

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There is much more foot space available now.

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There is plenty space behind the assembly to hide all the plumbing and looks like there will be enough room for fender storage.
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I plan on installing a cabinet in the upper aft area to hold toilet supplies. A wipes canister fits perfectly in the corner for hand sanitizing. Getting in and out of the head now is easier and since you’re facing forward there’s a view out the window. I like it so much I may even install a magazine rack and rename it the library!

For finishing the area, I purchased a shower surround from Home Depot which molds to the shape well, but the color is slightly different from the gel coat. I also have some lightweight ½” plastic panels that are a closer color match, but I would like to find the ¼” plastic material the factory used to cover the interior storage area in my 2002 X (shown in picture). It is rigid enough and is a good match to the gel coat.

Right now I am planning on installing a shutoff valve on the existing through hull and plumbing the macerator to that. I haven’t heard of any leaks or problems with the thru hulls but will add a few extra layers of glass for reinforcement.
I can install a lock on the shutoff valve in compliance with regulations. The macerator will be tee’d to the waste pump-out pipe but mounted above it so I won’t need a 3 way valve. The plumbing will be rigid schedule 40 PVC with a short piece of flex pipe to adapt the macerator to the PVC. The area behind the toilet will be covered and have 2 doors for access and storage. The area below the plumbing and macerator will be tubbed for containment in case of a leak.

We use the boat as a camper occasionally so I want the option of draining the tank at campgrounds. I can install enough wire so I can stand outside and hit a remote starter type switch to engage the macerator. A garden hose fits snugly inside the through hull so I’m hoping I can hold the hose in place and engage the macerator to drain the tank. I should have the admiral standby with the camera in case there is a “RV” type event.

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I would like some feedback and opinions:

1. Would anyone know the name of the ¼” plastic panel material and where to find it? There is a Piedmont Plastics (not convenient) in the DC area, but I’m not sure what type to ask for.

2. I have a full enclosure so any horizontal surface is out for the deck fitting installation. The location I am considering is directly above the head through hull and below the black stripe (below the rub rail). That will allow a short pipe run and all plumbing will be concealed. I will be able to clip a lanyard or cable to the cap so it won’t be lost in the drink. Any thoughts on drawbacks to this arrangement?


I haven’t used a pump out on a boat with an installed system so I am wondering if the vertical location may pose any problems for access (such as height) from the dock. A guy at BOATUS told me most of the pump outs on the Bay don’t use screw in fittings, but use a donut type affair and needs to be held in manually with pressure to get a good seal. I’m thinking the vertical mount will work out better if a leak does occur- just hose the side off.
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Post by Don T »

Hello,
I like the idea of more room for my feet and knees. I have contemplated for years about removing the sink.
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WOW.....GREAT Job.....
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The sink itself is not the problem; it is small enough and far enough above the floor to allow plenty of foot-room, IF the cabinet below were removed leaving only enough of a rim to support the sink. I keep the 5 gallon flex-tank under the aft seat of the dinette anyway, so that area is not really needed for storage below the sink.
While some think the sink is unnecessary in the head, I find it important to provide a way to wash hands after use, and NOT in the kitchen (galley) sink. You know where those hands have been, BUT hopefully then not near the food preparation area. Also, provides a private supply of water for use in there, when needed.
So the only issue stopping me from cutting out the cabinet below the sink is not having a PLAN on how to finsih the area off. Restoring the solid water-tight pan and its fairing into the walls in the head would be a major task.
I guess it could just be laid up with fiberglass cloth and resin, and finished with gel-coat, with only a horizontal access opening under the sink left unsealed. Maybe put a sheet of foam or something to isolate the hull from the new liner lay-up, and provide temporary support to the area until the cloth and first coat of resin sets up.
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Re: I finally took the Plunge- New X Head Phase I

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Greg wrote: I plan on installing a cabinet in the upper aft area to hold toilet supplies. A wipes canister fits perfectly in the corner for hand sanitizing. Getting in and out of the head now is easier and since you’re facing forward there’s a view out the window. I like it so much I may even install a magazine rack and rename it the library.
Well done - - - looks great and good ideas (I especially like the name it the library part - - - sign on the door, even).

Rick :) :macm:
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Post by Currie »

Smart idea Greg - Nice work!
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Post by Catigale »

Heres a link to the head Greg installed

Sealand Traveller

That 9 gallon holding tank would sure be good for my crew.... :)

Currently about 1/2 a boat buck for the head - it has to tap into your water supply too of course. You could use seawater to flush if you put in a through hull and valve system of course.
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Re: I finally took the Plunge- New X Head Phase I

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Greg wrote:
I would like some feedback and opinion
Thats a "first class" handy-man piece of work. Looks great.
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Post by Greg »

Thanks for the nice comments.
I found the unit listed on e-bay by a dealer in Ohio, bone color was $350 white $360, but I don’t see a current listing or remember the name. If I can find his name I’ll post it. This year was our 25 year anniversary and my wife wanted a ring, I wanted a new head for the boat.
I told her she got a ring, but I got a throne!! :D :D
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That seat could've passed as a nice ring for the Admiral....mmmmmm....maybe not....
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