Rigging The Mac Is Now A Breeze

[Terry]

Personally I would not want to raise the foot of my headsail since that would only increase the moment of heel and make the boat heel sooner and further. It is common for the headsail to drape over the pulpit and it would have minimal impact on sail shape, it would be in your best interest to return the genoa to its' original height. As for the quick release, as long as you have it adjusted to conform to the oem forestay length when closed it would make for a more convenient connection when passing under bridges.

[Kelly Hanson East]

I took pictures and ID'd the parts in a Mod post, under my former monikor of 'Catigale' - if I have a minute Ill try find it and post a link.....

[Kelly Hanson East]

See the link below for the Johnson Quick Release Lever in the WM catalog - I used the larger size, 1500# rating

http://ecatalog.westmarine.com/full.asp ... odId=20086

[Highlander]

Hi guys

Terry
I have to disagree with you here when you say not to raise the head sail , when raising the head sail by 7" to 12" you are only raising very minimal sail area at the top remember its not the bottom of the sail area thats going to the mast top ! ? I can adjust & raise my genny on its Harken 00 furler to fly anywhere from the deck of the bowsprit to as high as 3ft above the standard oem forestay I normally fly it about 22" above the deck & I can extend it out from the bow on the sprit from the 2ft or the 3ft mark I fly two head sails at the same time my boat heels about the same amount as Beenes boat does with just his genny not really a lot of diff. when you fly a spin you are flying maybe six times more sail area at the top of the mast !!! now thats a diff story ?
Anyway dont knock it until you tried it baby

J

[profitt2]

I am about to make the mod that Kelly discussed. My furling system has about 12" of stay above the sail. Rather than move the mast hound, I was thinking of just shortening the stay above the sail, thus raising the sail and furling system to attach the lever. Do any of you think that there is any problem with that. The only thing that I think could be a problem would be the reduced space between the stay and the sail during tacking. Any thoughts? [email protected] Thx Steve

[Highlander]

As long as you have enough forestay length left to be able to slide the furler up to be able to inspect & adjust the forestay turn buckle !, I would only raise the furler enough to do this mod not 200mm "6ft" , I would only raise a Spin furling system that far because it can be removed & rolled up like a coiled line like in this pic
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j95/m ... 010001.jpg

J

[profitt2]

I have never tried to remove the furling system, I don't know how to expose the turnbuckle. That is something I need to do, in order to make sure the pin is in the turnbuckle. How do you expose it, and how do you remove the system as you photo shows. I bought the boat used last winter and haven't had a chance to 'learn' it yet.

[Night Sailor]

CAUTION! About rolling a furler foil into a coil! Highlander needs to specify the type, brand and age of his furler foil because it's not the same for all furlers. I had to replace my seven year old CDI F2 furler foil when it broke at the throat after coiling and tieing it into a five foot diameter coil for transport on the deck of the X for about 3 miles at 25 mph. The CDI distributor said on the phone foils should never be recoiled after recieving from the factory and mounting on the forestay. He was gracious enough to say the owner's manual wasn't that clear and offered to send me a new one if I would pay the freight. I agreed, got it in about four days, and can't say enough about how happy I am that CDI stands behind their products with no arguments.

[Highlander]

Night Sailor

I did specify that furler type I said a "Spinnaker furling system" that happens to be a CDI unit witch have a rope or line foil that can be easily coiled with out any kind of damage as shown in the pic I posted & is designed to be stored in that manner you can read the manual on the CDI site if you care to do so
I do not know why anyone would coil a CDI plastic foil to travel with on the boat it is much more secure & safer to keep it strapped to the mast when trailering Their got that off my chest

it is easy enough to check your forestay turn buckle under the furling drum just by sliding the furler drum upthe forestay & then clamp it off with a pair of visegrips on the turnbuckle not the forestay so as it dont slide down on your hands or do it when the mast sitting on its cradle or you can do it when demasted 1
J

[profitt2]

Is there a pin that needs to be released? or the two screws underneath ?

[c130king]

it is easy enough to check your forestay turn buckle under the furling drum just by sliding the furler drum upthe forestay & then clamp it off with a pair of visegrips on the turnbuckle not the forestay so as it dont slide down on your hands or do it when the mast sitting on its cradle or you can do it when demasted 1
J

I think using the word "easy" may be a bit of a stretch to some...especially me. I read a lot about this last fall when there were some threads on the furler/forestay failing and the mast collapsing...apparently that is a bad thing. So I finally checked my turnbuckle for the first time this past December. Mast was up. I unfurled the genoa. Then I had to cut the line that was used to tie the tack down to the bottom of the furler. I was not able to "slide" the sail up the furling track to get it out of the way so I essentially pulled the bottom 10" or so of the sail out of the furler so that I could slide the drum up. I had to fiddle with the pin and the drum to get it out and up but eventually I did and saw my turnbuckle. Much smaller/lighter than I was expecting. But it seemed fine and there was a cotter pin which seemed to be doing its job.

Put it back together but I couldn't get those 10" back in the furler all the way. Seems to me as if the entire Genoa slid down a couple of inches. So now I seem to have some "loose fabric" at the furling drum when sailing. But it doesn't look that bad or really effect performance...as far as I can tell. It was difficult getting that drum and pin back in place and secured but I eventually figured it out.

I think my next attempt will have to be taking the genoa all the way off the furling system...just to learn how that is done...and then re-hauling the genoa to ensure it is all the way up the furler with a nice tight leech.

YMMV. Good Luck.

Cheers,
Jim

[David Mellon]

Learn how to tie a Truckers Hitch before you take it apart. The hitch is used at the bottom to pull the sail down at the foot. Better to know how before you start, voice of a bad experience!

[Hardcrab]

c130king,
I have the CDI 2 furler also, and I do not need to take the sail out of the track to raise the drum to inspect/adjust.
Perhaps the PO set it up right, I don't know.

I remove the ring ding and pin that is in the black plastic furler piece, up aways from the drum.
Grab and pull up the black piece until the turnbuckle is exposed.
Vice grips on the swaged end threaded piece for two reasons. To hold the assy "up" with no hands and to keep it from turning as adjustments are made.
(When you twist the turnbuckle, the lower end will adjust fine, but the upper end might twist the stay itself unless you hold it from rotating.)

When done, lower the assy, line it up (kinda, slightly tricky) then re-pin.

I think, but not sure, that the gray foil piece is not much longer than the bottom of the pin hole.
That leaves a long "empty space" in the black piece. When the black piece is raised, it's just sliding up the foil piece until it bottoms out, exposing the turnbuckle.

[c130king]

Hardcrab,

That's what others had told me but damn if I could make it work like you described. The sail was in the way of the top black plastic piece from sliding up. Maybe when I take the sail off the furler and then "reinstall" it I can figure out how to do it the right way.

But at least I have some confidence that my turnbuckle is good to go.

Thanks,
Jim