New Glass

[Nauti & Nice]

There was a question about the black finish on the topsides of the Mac's.
I left a response about using Liquid Glass, after some thought I went and
checked my bottle. It is called New Glassll. The website is,
www.newglass2.com
Well worth checking out their site. My boat is an '01 and still looks factory
fresh, I also did the bottom with it - spotless. It is not an anti-fouling compound but after a couple of weeks in the water (fresh & salt) nothing sticks to it....George

Probably the liquid glass and the new glass are very similar

[Mark Prouty]

Thanks for the tip. I ordered and will try it out.

[Tom Root]

I appreciate you posting this tip also. The website states that it protects against blisters. That's very interesting, because I have no desire to put bottom paint on my boat at all. Primarily because it will not be in the water for extended periods, and also because of the impact that the environment gets from all the nasty stuff that is in bottom paints. There is a lawyer out here in San Diego that is attempting to mandate removal of all environmentally abusive bottom coats ASAP. If passed, it will affect thousands of boats at the Marina's here. One fellow VYCSD club member is looking at several thousands of dollars for redoing his boat, and there are fines mandated if you ignore the warnings.

All this plus the fact I want to race this boat this year, and a slick bottom is a big advantage, I have other boats, and feel this can be a friction factor for racing. All this can be debated, but lastly the initial and subsequent expenses incurred are absurd. 40 bucks for this stuff a year sounds reasonable, and my 2002's black gel keeps me really busy. This product kills alot of birds with one stone, as they say. I think I'll give it a try, and maybe talk someone else into it, and spring for a discount by buying the 2 Quart size, with the stain remover thrown in also, and save 25 bucks between us!

I appreciate this post, because I was going to post this as a question, as I remember someone mentioning this product before,(26X.com) and I primarily wanted it as a bottom sealer, but am glad I got a 1st hand account from a happy customer.....THANKS

Tom Root
2002 26
Great White
San Diego

[Tony D-26X_SusieQ]

It seems to me that California has way too many lawyers for it's own good.

[Tom Root]

Yes, I personally call them leaches, it's a much more appropriate term, and I can say that as I was unfortunately married to one, and know that is the best description of that proffesion! Also any other proffesion that just practices....they never seem to get it right, and when you use their services their mistakes cost YOU money!

Off topic, or is it

Tom Root
2002 26
Great White
San Diego

[Timm Miller]

Think of it as kitchen floor wax.....acrylic.

[Frank C]

Nice to hear that a polymer keeps the crud from sticking, but I'm not sure I'd trust NewGlass (or its main competitor, PoliGlow) to prevent blisters.

OTOH, if either of them could keep lawyers from sticking ...

[Tom Root]

OTOH, if either of them could keep lawyers from sticking ...

Now that was a good one!

I don't know if it would be effective for blister prevention either but as the website infers this, wonder if they'd back it up with a solid guarantee? If they didn't, we'd have to involve a lawyer, make him rich, and still have a blister problem.

The only down side of this product I see, is that it looks like people have experienced flaking and that would look really bad in a few years, and alot of work stripping and reapplying. I guess there really is no magic way to keep the boat looking new. What does help for sure is to keep the boat in a garage when you are not using it. We have one member who has a 1995 model, and she looks real good and it is used on fairly regular basis. I do not have that luxury unfortunately, but am considering a full cover that will protect it better.

Tom Root
2002 26
Great White
San Diego

[Mark Prouty]

The only down side of this product I see, is that it looks like people have experienced flaking and that would look really bad in a few years, and alot of work stripping and reapplying. I guess there really is no magic way to keep the boat looking new.

Oh no! Is my boat going to look like it has cancer in a few years. Is my yearning for a youthfull appearing boat going to cost me in its old age?? Are there side effects to this product that years of weather exposure haven't had time to prove yet? Hope not. I got my product and will be applying it in a few weeks.

[Frank C]

... The only down side of this product I see, is that it looks like people have experienced flaking and that would look really bad in a few years, and alot of work stripping and reapplying.

Practical Sailor magazine, in its April 1 edition, has just started a new test of the three polymer competitors, Poli Glow, NewGlass2, and Vertglas. For comparison, they also had a professional detailer apply a section of Collinite #925 Fiberglass Boat Wax on the same test boat. He wet-sanded with 1500-grit, then used AquaBuff 2000 rubbing compound, and finally waxed with Collinite - all by hand. Regarding the flaking, it's sounds to me easier to completely remove a flaked poly-coating, than to wetsand and compound a boat for waxing and in the end, they concluded that the polymers produce a higher gloss than the wax. I'll be trying out Poli-glow sometime this year, at least on the black sections.

Practical Sailor never reported the flaking in their tests 3 years ago, so I'm not too concerned. According to the New Glass developer, completely removing his coating can be done with Castrol engine degreaser or Spray Nine degreaser. The article says flaking can result if you move too slowly, which allows the product to dry onto the applicator. The article concluded with this:

Talk about night and day. The boat looks brand new, at least the sides, the cabintop and a 2'x2' section of the transom. We can't really tell the difference between the hull restorers yet. So our initial conclusions come down to application.

Our tester puts Poli Glow at the head of the pack because of its variety of applicators, effective cleanser, and clear directions. The Vertglas could use additional applicators. The New Glass-2 needs a larger applicator, and its stain remover did not work for us.

The sections waxed with Collinite look good, too, although the hull restorers gave the boat a higher gloss, to our eyes. The good news is that it's tough to botch a wax job. There's much more room for error when working with hull restorers, and hull restorers are tougher to remove.

[Tom Root]

Thank you Frank, sounds like a fair endosement. I am going to try a polymer, and as you mentioned, it can be removed easily also!