Mast fall lessons learned

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I replaced the factory shackle on the mast raising winch with a Wichard keypin shackle (Image) because I wanted a slightly longer shackle to make attaching the lower fore stays easier. The two stays and mast raising winch knot were too thick to easily fit inside the stock shackle, and switching them had been the longest part of rigging for sail. I've raised the mast a number of times with this keypin shackle in the past.

Today as I was raising the mast, right at the point where the toe of the mast foot would be guided into the deck, the winch tightened a bit because the toe caught the side of the mast foot receiver and the shackle failed suddenly, sending the pin flying and dropping the mast raising winch pole onto me. The mast fell back onto the cockpit, but I was able to push it to the port side away from the starboard side where the Admiral was standing to clear stays and the spreaders.

The mast fell slot down onto the forward cockpit stanchion, and because the cockpit lifelines were down, the spreader then hit the track on the port side of the cockpit and the cockpit seat, bending it.
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Inspection revealed no damage to the hull at all. The spreader took the brunt of the damage and bent. The mast is also no longer true straight, but may remain straight enough to function. There is slight damage to the mast where the slot hit the stanchion but that can likely be filed smooth. I had been worried that the foot of the mast might be bent, but it appears to remain straight. There's enough "slop" in the mast foot pin slot to allow the mast to fall anywhere onto the cockpit.

Lessons learned:

1) Keypin shackles have a sudden failure mode: If the pin bends, the keypin can come out of the shackle suddenly. This is not the case with a screw pin shackle, which will instead bend and deform before breaking, which serves as a visible warning of being overstressed. Do not use keypin shackles where a failure can cause injury.
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2) Be exceptionally cautious when replacing factory hardware. Be certain (don't just presume) that the load rating of the replacement hardware is higher than the load rating of the factory hardware. I couldn't find a load rating on the keypin shackle and presumed that since it's the same size pin that it would be the same strength or better because it was forged. Obviously not the case. Also, because I replaced the factory hardware, this mast fall isn't a warranty issue, it's my fault.

3) Nobody topside aft of the mast when raising. From now on, the admiral will go below until the forestay is connected. We had believed that being to the side would be good enough, but the mast easily fell all the way to the port side of the cockpit when I pushed it that way. Just before it actually fell, I had warned her to one side and asked her to sit down, because if something happened I didn't want her to startle and fall backwards over the cockpit onto the hard.

4) Put the lifelines up when raising the mast. Had the mast hit the lifelines, I likely would have gotten away with no damage.

5) If the mast is going to fall, definitely push it to one side or the other. The best case scenario would be landing on the lifelines. Otherwise, having a spreader take the load is the least damage you're going to do.

We were really lucky in that we can probably get away with replacing one spreader. Hope this post saves someone else some grief.
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Mastreb; sorry to hear about your accident. Glad no one was hurt. Thanks for the heads up on these type of pins. Hope your repairs will be small and back sailing safely.
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Thanks Derwin. This has definitely slowed down my "speed rigging" hardware changes.
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Did my first raising less than twenty min ago. went well, but took a bit. Had the shrouds waaaay to tight to raise it , but backed them off and all is good. Only six more days til she goes in the water. Sorry to hear about your mishap. Great advice though and thanks for sharing. I'm terrified i'm gonna break something and it'll be months before i can get replacements sent this far north :?
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Can you clarify the difference between a key pin and a screw pin shackle? The link didn't work on Safari...
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I am paranoid about the mast falling even when it's up I worry about the forestay falling so always tie off the Jib Halyard to act as a second forestay.
When we raise the mast I walk the mast up while my wife winches from the cockpit , the mast raising takes the effort out of it but I still support the mast, the first time we raised the mast we did it by hand, it doesn't take that much effort to do it manually and you know your in control if anything breaks ! Gald your both ok !
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Catigale wrote:Can you clarify the difference between a key pin and a screw pin shackle? The link didn't work on Safari...
Here's a link that won't break to a picture of a keypin shackle: Image. I checked the breaking strength with Wichard and they claim 2500 lbs., which should have been well more than enough.

The problem is that when the pin bent, the "key" portion was now angled enough to slip free of the retaining slot and did. That would not have happened with the factory screw pin shackle even if the pin had bent.
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I have to give Mike Inmon at MacGregor Sales at the Factory a big thank-you for staying an hour past close on a Friday so I could drive out and pick up a $25 replacement spreader to fix the mast. That's just great customer service.
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mastreb wrote:I have to give Mike Inmon at MacGregor Sales at the Factory a big thank-you for staying an hour past close on a Friday so I could drive out and pick up a $25 replacement spreader to fix the mast. That's just great customer service.
Yes it is.

FYI, I believe the spreader can be replaced with some standard aluminum tubing of the same diameter available at hardware supply. Some have used steel tube of same diameter.

Some good points in your story. One that I take away is nobody stands under the mast until it's secured.

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So we put the mast back up Monday for the first time since the fall. I'd been worried about the bend, but it's absolutely not apparent when the mast is up. The stays keep everything perfectly in place, and there's no impact on the mast swiveling. I'm surprised, because you can see the bend when the mast is laying across the boat. In any case, there's no effect to sailing whatsoever, which is good.

I'm now using two separate shackles for the baby stays and the mast raising winch. I use a 5000 lb. working load 3/8ths D screw pin shackle for the winch and a smaller, longer screw pin shackle with a 2000 lb. working load for the baby stays. They're two different loads and requirements and need shackles to match each in my opinion. I also re-use the stay shackle to bind all the stays together under the mast for trailering, which prevents them from going down the side of the boat in the event that the bungee fails.

An aluminum tube of the right size would definitely work, although you'd have to do something to clamp the stay at the end. I've now got a spare clamp removed from the damaged spreader if anyone ever needs it.
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Keep the spreader end, it does not take up much space. Spare parts like these are available from Blue Water Yachts.

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Wow! Mike told Cindy and I not to replace the shackle and relayed a story to us about the mast falling when a more convenient shackle was used. It was your story Mike was telling us. I’m thankful that you and yours are unharmed from the incident. I am raising the mast for the first time on Sunday (4/17) and will have my Skipper (Cindy) wait below until I have the mast secure. I won’t lie, I’m nervous about this.

Thanks for telling your story; I’m certainly taking a lot away from it.

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Miss_Dallie wrote:Wow! Mike told Cindy and I not to replace the shackle and relayed a story to us about the mast falling when a more convenient shackle was used. It was your story Mike was telling us. I’m thankful that you and yours are unharmed from the incident. I am raising the mast for the first time on Sunday (4/17) and will have my Skipper (Cindy) wait below until I have the mast secure. I won’t lie, I’m nervous about this.

Thanks for telling your story; I’m certainly taking a lot away from it.

Ron
It's not a hard process or dangerious--with the right equipment. You'll want her help to move the mast foot from the bow pulpit to the mast base. Once you've got the mast in position and ready to raise, just crank smoothly and quickly until it's vertical. When you attach the forestay to the fore chainplate, if you have the roller furling jib be certain that the furling line exits towards the bottom, otherwise rotate the furler 180 so it does. If you've got the furling line coming out the top or right side of the furler, you won't be able to furl it from the cockpit.

When taking the mast down, it's safe as soon as the mast weight is on the aft roller. You'll also want two people to move the mast forward.

Good luck! Glad I'm now a part of Mike's general warnings :P
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Just as an added thought...not sure if others have ever experienced this issue when raising...

Sometimes the shroud/stay adjuster connection gets "kinked". The loop at the end of the shroud is not going through the stay adjusters straight. In fact I have that going on right now...one of my shrouds is not going through the end of my stay adjuster straight. I didn't catch it last time I raised the main.

So my advice, right before you pin the forestay, check that your stay adjusters and shrouds are straight and "normal".

Good luck.

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Jim

And just as an additional FYI...the mast, even with the furled 150 genoa attached, can be moved from the pulpit to the mast plate or the other way by one person. I do this solo all the time. To make my life a little easier I disconnect the spreaders and bungee the spreaders and all the lines to the mast before moving.
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It is certainly possible to move the mast from the pulpit to the base with one person. Because I don't take the spreaders off (I modified the lifelines so they drop all the way along when unclipped) I find that the jiblines, stays, and spreaders seem to get caught up on things and it's just easier to have someone unsnagging as the other person moves the mast. Removing the spreaders would make single handing it much easier but would take a bit more time.
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