26x changed to new mast raising system

[2BonC]

Having bought the mast raising kit with the winch for my from BWY one thing is not clear to me. I have babystays allready securing the mast to the side during raising. Is it necessary to install a second pair ofthem to secure the raising boom? Who ever did this before did You install the baby stays delivered with the kit?
Rainer

[Russ]

I'm not sure how it works on the X.

My M has 2 stays on each side that are part of the permanent rigging. They are not part of the raising system.

The mast raising system uses the 2 temporary stays (one on each side) to keep the mast straight while it is being lifted. They are very important, especially when lifting the mast with the winch with only one person.

Hopefully an X owner can comment on where to connect the baby stays.



--Russ

[March]

There's only one pair of baby stays that you may keep as permanently mounted -- or not. They secure the mast against wobbling while raising it. Once the mast is in place, the lateral tensions are transferred to the regular stays. The third point of balance is the forestay. You can remove the baby stays but I prefer to keep them in place.
The boom doesn't have any stays. I attach it after the mast is in place
1) detach the mast from the pulpit and "walk" it in position to the foot of the mast.
2) attach the baby stays
3) attack the rising pole
4) crank the mast in position.
5) attach the foresray.
6) remove the rising pole and store it below
7) put the boom on the "crutch" and attach it to the gooseneck

[Hamin' X]

I have the M system on my x. Baby stays on the mast are all you need.

Rich

[2BonC]

thank You all for the advises, now I know what to do with my second pair of babystays , either I use them or not
Rainer

[Hamin' X]

Keep them for spares. By the way, I keep my baby stays attached at all times and don't find that they are in the way.

~Rich

[Kilblaan]

We have been raising our mast on our 2001 26X for years but we are getting older and thought we would get a MRS!

Does the 26M MRS 'raising pole' bolt onto the 26X mast base without any mods?

Does the 26M MRS come with the two 'baby stays'? Are they similar to the ones on the normal 26X rigging?

We always have two people doing mast raising duty for safety reasons so can we just use the normal 'baby stays' on the 26X rigging?

[Nautek]

I changed to the M mast raising system on my X
All you need is the right winch and bolt to your existing pole
I had to fit a hound to the mast also to tie onto but you could use other methods I'm sure

Allan

[bscott]

I converted my system to a by getting the smallest winch from Harbor Frt. No need to buy the rigging from BWY.

Bob

[Kilblaan]

Thanks to Bob and Alan for replying.

Think I need to clarify my original post --- I do not have a 26 MRS --- we have been raising the mast by hand.

The 26 MRS is no longer available so we are looking at getting a 26 MRS not the BWY system.

My question is specifically in ref to using a new 26 MRS on a 2001 26 .

Will the 26 MRS 'raising pole' bolt to the mast base without any mods Are the 'baby stays' an issue as there is always two of us doing the mast raising

Would appreciate some feedback

[Tomfoolery]

As far as I know, the system will pin right to the tabernacle of the , just like the system. You don't really have to add the bail to the mast - just tilt the gin pole back a little, and use the jib halyard to the winch line. You lose mechanical efficiency as the mast gets higher, but you need it less as the mast gets higher anyway, so you haven't lost anything.

I would use the baby stays, if it were me. Sure, you can guide it by hand, as when hand raising it, but if it starts to get away from you, it doesn't have to go very far over before you can't stop it.

Edit: What's the difference between the OEM system, and that from BWY?

[bscott]

I installed a bale on my mast--makes it much easier to reach up and hook up the winch line and you can exert more forward pull on the mast to attach the foestay. I also hook my baby stays to the base of the stantions and use the small Johnson levers to relieve the tension of the baby stays once the mast is up (if you keep the BSays on the mast while sailing, they could interfere with the mast rotation). Do not raise the mast without the BStays-don't ask how I know this

Bob

[DaveB]

I have the M gin pole but only used it once, mine came with baby stays for a M and were not for a X as length is not the same. You may want to ck it out if you are useing them as a spare. Yes the M Gin pole is attached to the X plate with no modification.
Dave

thank You all for the advises, now I know what to do with my second pair of babystays , either I use them or not
Rainer

[Kilblaan]

Thanks for all the replies - much wiser now

Couple of questions: What is a 'Johnson lever' What is a bail/bale that you attach to the mast - is this a bail snap shackle

[DaveB]

The Johnson Lever is a adjustable lever attached to Backstay or forestay to give you 1-7/8 inch slack so you can pin the headstay. The bail is a U shape stainless steel you attach something to, like your main sheet to boom or down haul from mast to boom.
Dave

Thanks for all the replies - much wiser now

Couple of questions: What is a 'Johnson lever' What is a bail/bale that you attach to the mast - is this a bail snap shackle