Scallywag Sail 2012
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bahama bound
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bahama bound
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- Posts: 534
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- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: charleston sc
- Erik Hardtle
- First Officer
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- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: New Bern, NC
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
I plan to be at the ramp sometime between 9am-10am Friday with Knot Shore.
Compromise will be there around Noon.
Compromise will be there around Noon.
- opie
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- Location: Wilmington, NC
Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
To Scallywaggers, here is a map showing Erik H's trip itinerary....

Notes on Friday from me as a local but not official until Erik H chimes in....
- There is usually a light land breeze or wind in the mid am during summer, then calm at lunch as the change occurs in temperature, then a gradually increasing sea breeze as the afternoon progresses, maybe up to 12 knots, then decreasing until calm at evening. (Any storm will change this pattern, of course.)
- 80% of the time, a NOAA forecast for thunderstorms for the Wilmington area will produce the rain and wind two to four miles inland and not hit the beach because of the sea breeze that holds it off. Those other 20% will get you of course.
- If there is small craft advisory, best bet would be to use the ICW up north, 8 miles, to the anchorage.
- First, and best chance for fuel is Joyner's Marina SEE HERE
that is right across from NC Wildlife Ramp that is the Scallywag Official Starting Place.
- The anchorage could get crowded Friday afternoon, so it would be best if we get there soon on Friday, but with the Fourth not being a weekend date this year, it could be less popluated than past years.
- The Friday night anchorage is 34 10.408 N, 77 49.483W roughly. This is Masonboro Island, only accessible by boat, so uncrowded most of the time. There is plenty of place to camp out with tents as well. There is ocean/surf access 200 yards over the dunes, and the sound is good for fishing and swimming in calmer waters. (Wear foot protection from some oyster shells, although the anchorage is sandy bottom with a beach that is broad at low tide and small at high tide. High tide is 630 pm, (somebody check me) so the barbeque area could get skinny but it is rare that the beach is all under (neap tide and full moon, etc) ,anyway, it is a great place and those of you that love Cape Lookout, well, this is our version.......calm waters with sand separating you from the ocean and a great walk on a practically deserted 7 mile island.
- Dogs are supposed to be leashed............ but most are not..... no NC rangers except on the major holidays so far....
- I suggest anchoring stern first with bow anchor out and stern anchor on beach. Then adjust anchors as tide moves. I hope to assist anyone who has not done this. Even though I usually try to stay clear of other boats, I think, since we will be one group, we could get fairly close together with fenders out it need-be for space.....
- There is space for tubing as well if you have kids and a strong engine.

- Saturday morning will be a trip to Wilmington per Erik's post above. 8 miles south then 10 miles north, maybe a bit more.. There are two shortcuts, one from the Friday night anchorage south bypassing Shinn's Creek and the other at the south end of Snow's Cut, taking a sharp right turn north. Both shortcuts have serious shoal danger but I use them OK with my foils all up and go slow and at 1/2 tide and rising or better..... We can discuss with Erik Friday night.
- The ride north is scenic on the Cape Fear and we will be against the tide, (subject to someone else confiming the tide tables.) so we will be losing 2 to 3 knots speed on the trip.
- We will pass the the Wilmington Docks on the left as we near Wilmington and there is a good chance we will pass ocean going freighters, but the Cape Fear River affords plenty of room for our Macs.
- If anyone has lost out a chance to dock at the City Docks through Erik H, I may have a suggestion or two for anchorages.
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Wahoooooo!!!! Get er done.....!!! Come on, anyone who wants to....

Notes on Friday from me as a local but not official until Erik H chimes in....
- There is usually a light land breeze or wind in the mid am during summer, then calm at lunch as the change occurs in temperature, then a gradually increasing sea breeze as the afternoon progresses, maybe up to 12 knots, then decreasing until calm at evening. (Any storm will change this pattern, of course.)
- 80% of the time, a NOAA forecast for thunderstorms for the Wilmington area will produce the rain and wind two to four miles inland and not hit the beach because of the sea breeze that holds it off. Those other 20% will get you of course.
- If there is small craft advisory, best bet would be to use the ICW up north, 8 miles, to the anchorage.
- First, and best chance for fuel is Joyner's Marina SEE HERE
that is right across from NC Wildlife Ramp that is the Scallywag Official Starting Place.
- The anchorage could get crowded Friday afternoon, so it would be best if we get there soon on Friday, but with the Fourth not being a weekend date this year, it could be less popluated than past years.
- The Friday night anchorage is 34 10.408 N, 77 49.483W roughly. This is Masonboro Island, only accessible by boat, so uncrowded most of the time. There is plenty of place to camp out with tents as well. There is ocean/surf access 200 yards over the dunes, and the sound is good for fishing and swimming in calmer waters. (Wear foot protection from some oyster shells, although the anchorage is sandy bottom with a beach that is broad at low tide and small at high tide. High tide is 630 pm, (somebody check me) so the barbeque area could get skinny but it is rare that the beach is all under (neap tide and full moon, etc) ,anyway, it is a great place and those of you that love Cape Lookout, well, this is our version.......calm waters with sand separating you from the ocean and a great walk on a practically deserted 7 mile island.
- Dogs are supposed to be leashed............ but most are not..... no NC rangers except on the major holidays so far....
- I suggest anchoring stern first with bow anchor out and stern anchor on beach. Then adjust anchors as tide moves. I hope to assist anyone who has not done this. Even though I usually try to stay clear of other boats, I think, since we will be one group, we could get fairly close together with fenders out it need-be for space.....
- There is space for tubing as well if you have kids and a strong engine.

- Saturday morning will be a trip to Wilmington per Erik's post above. 8 miles south then 10 miles north, maybe a bit more.. There are two shortcuts, one from the Friday night anchorage south bypassing Shinn's Creek and the other at the south end of Snow's Cut, taking a sharp right turn north. Both shortcuts have serious shoal danger but I use them OK with my foils all up and go slow and at 1/2 tide and rising or better..... We can discuss with Erik Friday night.
- The ride north is scenic on the Cape Fear and we will be against the tide, (subject to someone else confiming the tide tables.) so we will be losing 2 to 3 knots speed on the trip.
- We will pass the the Wilmington Docks on the left as we near Wilmington and there is a good chance we will pass ocean going freighters, but the Cape Fear River affords plenty of room for our Macs.
- If anyone has lost out a chance to dock at the City Docks through Erik H, I may have a suggestion or two for anchorages.
-
Wahoooooo!!!! Get er done.....!!! Come on, anyone who wants to....
Last edited by opie on Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- opie
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
Erik H,
Seeing as how some are arriving around lunch, let me retract my statement above about rushing to get a spot at the anchorage. Here is why. Locals love to go there about lunch time and stay until 5pm or so. Few people overnight there usually. I hope and suspect that if we take our time at the ramp or nearby until the group assembles and enjoy ourselves and then get out in the ocean and sail then we will likely be approaching 5 pm when we get there and all should be well......
Opie (aka Jack)
Seeing as how some are arriving around lunch, let me retract my statement above about rushing to get a spot at the anchorage. Here is why. Locals love to go there about lunch time and stay until 5pm or so. Few people overnight there usually. I hope and suspect that if we take our time at the ramp or nearby until the group assembles and enjoy ourselves and then get out in the ocean and sail then we will likely be approaching 5 pm when we get there and all should be well......
Opie (aka Jack)
- cptron
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
Erik,
Will you be monitoring Channel 16 on the VHF while your at the ramp?
We won't be able to make it any earlier than say 11-1 pm since we will be getting off work that morning and putting in the water at Southport Marina then motoring/sailing up. I am going to try and talk a couple into coming with us in their Mac that they just purchased this last weekend.
We are looking forward to meeting everyone.
Keep the sails up and the keel down.
Thanks,
Ron
Will you be monitoring Channel 16 on the VHF while your at the ramp?
We won't be able to make it any earlier than say 11-1 pm since we will be getting off work that morning and putting in the water at Southport Marina then motoring/sailing up. I am going to try and talk a couple into coming with us in their Mac that they just purchased this last weekend.
We are looking forward to meeting everyone.
Keep the sails up and the keel down.
Thanks,
Ron
- Erik Hardtle
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
Thanks for all the info guys!
bamama bound: I will have two kids (girls ages 14 & 16) Compromise will have one boy about 17. Friday night will be spent at anchor.
We will be monitoring channel 16, but mostly using Channel 69.
This is a casual sail, so there will be no rushing... we will gladly hang out and wait for everyone... and if we don't make it to Masonboro, we'll just pull in somewheres and drop the hook. No worries, just full sails.
bamama bound: I will have two kids (girls ages 14 & 16) Compromise will have one boy about 17. Friday night will be spent at anchor.
We will be monitoring channel 16, but mostly using Channel 69.
This is a casual sail, so there will be no rushing... we will gladly hang out and wait for everyone... and if we don't make it to Masonboro, we'll just pull in somewheres and drop the hook. No worries, just full sails.
- Erik Hardtle
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
Arrgghhh... ya Scallywags!!! Ahoy!
The weather looks like it is going to be good so far...
Friday night cookout on the beach:
I will have charcoal and a camp fire grill for cooking on the beach. I will have a small table so bring a Side Dish or Dessert to share!
Saturday Night at Elijahs:
I've will be making reservations for 11 sailors, let me know if I am missing anyone.
Knot Shore (Erik, Jean, Nicole, Christina) - 4
Storm Walker (Ron, Cindy)- 2
Marin (Jack, Gina) - 2
Compromise (Victor, Kendall, Prescott, Troy) -4
The weather looks like it is going to be good so far...
Friday night cookout on the beach:
I will have charcoal and a camp fire grill for cooking on the beach. I will have a small table so bring a Side Dish or Dessert to share!
Saturday Night at Elijahs:
I've will be making reservations for 11 sailors, let me know if I am missing anyone.
Knot Shore (Erik, Jean, Nicole, Christina) - 4
Storm Walker (Ron, Cindy)- 2
Marin (Jack, Gina) - 2
Compromise (Victor, Kendall, Prescott, Troy) -4
Last edited by Erik Hardtle on Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- Erik Hardtle
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- Location: New Bern, NC
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- Erik Hardtle
- First Officer
- Posts: 408
- Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2004 4:45 am
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: New Bern, NC
- Contact:
Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
Reservations for Elijahs have been made.
Looking forward to meeting some new sailing friends!!
Erik
Looking forward to meeting some new sailing friends!!
Erik
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bahama bound
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- C Striker
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
They may have melted. Too hot out there for me to be doing anything more than swimming.
When are we going to the Bahamas?
When are we going to the Bahamas?
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bahama bound
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
for the last few weeks i was looking foward to going ,but we kept looking at weather reports ..i would love to hear how it went !!!! we were out on the water here in charleston today in the afternoon it was great ,beached on a sandbar ,we might wait to go back to fla til sept .but anybody wants to cross over to the bahamas and we will be there with bells on ,any time !!!!!!!! would also love to do tortuga !!!!!!!
- cptron
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Re: Scallywag Sail 2012
We didn't melt, true it was hot, but sitting in the Hilton pool after a great day of sailing made up for it. We were late getting to the ramp and missed out on sailing with the group to Masonboro inlet but met up with them at Masonboro Island where we rafted up and had a wonderful meal cooked out on the beach. If you did not go because of the weather being too hot
then you sure missed out on a great trip.
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Bahama bound; the wife and I are going to plan a trip to the tortugas next year. Any suggestions here as to when would be a good time of year would be helpful. I guess all we need to do is dodge the 100 degree weather and hurricanes.
Bahama bound; the wife and I are going to plan a trip to the tortugas next year. Any suggestions here as to when would be a good time of year would be helpful. I guess all we need to do is dodge the 100 degree weather and hurricanes.
