Gas Treatment

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Gas Treatment

Post by Captain Jim »

I have consistently used a product called Sea foam for treating the gasoline in BOLD VENTURE'S gas tanks with a great deal of success. There is a product called K100mg fuel treatment that was recommended to me. Has anyone had experience with this product?

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Re: Gas Treatment

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What is it that you are trying to accomplish with the fuel treatment? Is it for storing the boat fuel for the off season? For the treatment of the ill effects of ethanol? I've got plenty of experience in these areas and would be happy to help.

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dive4it wrote: For the treatment of the ill effects of ethanol? I've got plenty of experience in these areas and would be happy to help.
Aspirin or Alka-Seltzer, plenty of cold fluids, usually help :D
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Re: Gas Treatment

Post by DaveB »

A much better product is Gas-Shok. Water Absorber,Fuel Stabilizer,stops Phase Seperation in Ethanol Fuel.
Cost $15 for 8 oz but treats 80 gals.
What most of the professianals use here in florida with boats sitting 6-8 mo. a year from Snow Birds.
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Captain Jim wrote:I have consistently used a product called Sea foam for treating the gasoline in BOLD VENTURE'S gas tanks with a great deal of success. There is a product called K100mg fuel treatment that was recommended to me. Has anyone had experience with this product?

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Re: Gas Treatment

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Practical Sailor has run a few articles about thier tests of gas treatments. While most do a respectable job of dealing with water, they have found the thing that does the most damage is a small amount of saltwater. Preventing the salt from doing damage really sets the different additives apart.
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I have found one of the best solutions is storage issues is to use Avgas it will have 0% ethanol. You CAN NOT use it with anything that has a catalytic converter since it has lead in it. I have gotten aircraft that have sat for over 5 years and the fuel system and fuel is still ok.

You CAN NOT run it at the lake or in the water it has lead in it. I empty my tank and then put some in. run engine long enough to make sure carbs are full. In the spring do the opposite with regular fuel.
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I have used their product (motor treatment) with great success from using it in my garden tracker to my 1968 classic Mustang that only sees sunny days, saying that and living in the Pacific Northwest that about 3 months total time the rest of the time it is parked in my shop. I use it as a fuel stabilizer and controlling moisture buildup in my fuel.
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Captain Jim wrote:I have consistently used a product called Sea foam for treating the gasoline in BOLD VENTURE'S gas tanks with a great deal of success. There is a product called K100mg fuel treatment that was recommended to me. Has anyone had experience with this product?


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DaveB wrote: What most of the professianals use here in florida with boats sitting 6-8 mo. a year from Snow Birds.
Dave
Pulleeeze! No self respecting Canadian would fail to recognize the proper alcohol treatment of the tank top-up!
Snow birds - indeed!
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I run the engine dry of fuel, and put any extra fuel from the tanks in the truck. Plus I also almost always run premium in all my motors.
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Crikey wrote:
DaveB wrote: What most of the professianals use here in florida with boats sitting 6-8 mo. a year from Snow Birds.
Dave
Pulleeeze! No self respecting Canadian would fail to recognize the proper alcohol treatment of the tank top-up!
Snow birds - indeed!
:P
Alcohol in a 2 stroke is a No No it dont mix with oil meaning a dry start meaning engine damage
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Crikey wrote:
DaveB wrote: What most of the professianals use here in florida with boats sitting 6-8 mo. a year from Snow Birds.
Dave
Pulleeeze! No self respecting Canadian would fail to recognize the proper alcohol treatment of the tank top-up!
Snow birds - indeed!
:P
Alcohol in a 2 stroke is a No No it dont mix with oil meaning a dry start meaning engine damage
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Alcohol in a 2 stroke is a No No it dont mix with oil meaning a dry start meaning engine damage
Hey Ormondude – add a bit of alcohol to a small amount of oil (even with no gasoline mixed with it, which wouldn’t normally ever happen) in a glass jar, shake, and I believe you will see that they mix quite well. Alcohol can work as a solvent (fairly benign, as solvent go) to clean an oily surface too. Or were you referring to something else in your post?

Fuel storage stabilizers (some contain alcohols), such as the two named below, will say on the container if they are suitable for 2-strokes (oil+ gas mix).

I’ve used Seafoam too, and Sta-bil, both well known and respected products, with success Captain Jim, but I’m not familiar with K100.

-Brian. :wink:
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Hey Seahouse read a 2 stroke Manual NO ALCOHOL just because something appears to Mix don't mean it didn't destroy lubrication properties - Water will mix with gear oil in your foot that does not mean the water is not a negative effect. its the same principal
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yukonbob wrote:Plus I also almost always run premium in all my motors.
I just discovered that a local gas station has premium gas with a prominent sticker declaring "No Alcohol", or words to that effect. I didn't know NYS allowed that, but there it is. It's a Fas Trac, by the way.

Premium ain't cheap, but I use so little that it doesn't matter. Well, unless my son is wakeboarding, but it's still relatively little gas compared to what the tow vehicle consumes, even when it's just driving to and from the marina.
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Boy a ton of incorrect advice in this thread. just stick with your Seafoam or stabil they are as good as anything out there. Premium gas does absolutely nothing for any engine with a compression ratio below 10:1,so don't waste your money.As for the acholhol thing,any outboard 2 cycle made after 1980 will run absolutely perfectly on it,the only thing to watch out for is water contamination,alchohol and water easily share a molecule and bond promoting corrosion.All 125,000 boats in az have been running on 10% alchohol for 30 plus years without a hitch,it's the only thing you can buy mandated by state law.
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