26M 2012: help rigging my assymetrical spinnaker for the ti

[oceanview2]

I bought the factory option multi colored sail at factory in costa Mesa.
It's still unused in the bag. We really want to use it
Blue, green, agua and white. Doyle.
I need some advise on how to rig it correctly.
And use it also. MACGREGOR mounted the block and halyard up the mast in the right place slightly below forestay.
Not sure where to attach it forward either.
Going sailing tmrw. Will have 5 knot SW winds.
Appreciate any help.
Thanks

[cptron]

do a search of the forums and you will find loads of information on how others have done this. then you can decide what works best for you. I do know that most of the ones on here have the mast hound for the A/S about 18" above the jib hound that we fly our spinnakers from. My clew is attached to a line that runs through a stand up block on the bail of the bow roller that I had upgraded and back to the cockpit and the sheeta run back to standup blocks on the rail of the cockpit (just like the jib but on seperate blocks) then to the winch. This way I can use the same winch for either sail. Hope this helps.

[SENCMac26x]

Ron, At some point can you post pictures of come back to my side of the river so I can see that. My new ride came with a cruising spinaker and I'd love to see how it works.

[Tomfoolery]

You can fly it from the jib halyard IF the halyard isn't holding up the jib furler top bearing (which it probably isn't on a factory setup), or if you use a hank-on jib (since you won't be flying the jib at the same time anyway).

But most folks install a second halyard for the spinnaker, about 18" higher than the jib halyard, on a new hound which you can get from BWY. Higher is much better especially with a Chute Scoop or other snuffer, as it's too tight under the forestay using the jib halyard.

And adding an adjustable tack line is very nice too, though not essential.

[taime1]

If you want to mount the additional halyard, the BWY part number is 3431-1M0 and it's called "Shroud Bracket, Upper". I spent a long time looking for hound, mast, spinnkaer, halyard and eventually found the right part. They also have a spinnaker hardware kit in the accessories section which may be of interest to you.

I'm thinking getting the asym, just haven't pulled the trigger due to the usual boat-investment restraints.

[cptron]

Next good weekend we will be out and about and would be glad to show you.

[cptron]

Ron, At some point can you post pictures of come back to my side of the river so I can see that. My new ride came with a cruising spinaker and I'd love to see how it works.

I sent you a pm. We will probably brave the rain and go out this weekend cause the wife and I are having withdrawls, so let me know if you want to get together.

[Wandering]

My first posting, a tremendously helpful site.

Like you I had no idea. I tried from the jib halyard block, but it didn't work too well. So I ordered a mast hound from BWY in Seattle and placed it above the jib block last season, exactly 18 inches. What a difference, it worked so well. A couple of other things. Run the tack line to a block on the front of the anchor roller. I attach it to a ATN tackler that runs the spinnaker up and down the jib or in my case the furled genoa. I will play with this a little more, possibly adding a foot or so off the tacker for the tack line so the spinnaker does not sit right on the furled genny.

I run 90 feet of sheet around the bow and back to blocks attached to the top of my stern rail seats, you can also use the genny blocks as well, both seem to work. Finally and hopefully, the spinnaker was in a chute scoop, works really well.

A lot of folks get lazy and don't use this wonderful sail, family members and if you have an Admiral will groan at the mention of the spinnaker..... on that I keep my 90 feet of sheets, nicely organized for port and starboard in my anchor locker which can moved out of the way when anchoring but deployed quickly as well. The spinnaker halyard can serve two purposes - spinnaker plus as a back up to the forestay. I don't fully understand this but the forestay is only 1/8th and is thinner than the shrouds. There has been discussion in the forum that de masting can occur, so when the spinnaker halyard is not in use, run it from a block at the base of the mast to a cleat at the bow, it is then a back up in the event a de masking should occur due to the forestay giving way. Again not a common event, but I do once a season check all my shrouds for tension using a loos gauge plus pull up the furling at the front after you remove the genny or job for the season and check the connections and wires at the forestay.


It's a rush for you and the boat! Two to three knots in an instant!

[sailfish02]

Hey Wandering,

anything new to add since January ? I am installing everything you have, but I haven't got the ATN tacker yet. It looks like a nice touch and very flexible for any needed adjustments.

I like what some of the other guys have suggested with the chute scoop and all.

[sirlandsalot]

I took my new spin out a couple weekends ago. I spent the spring adding a second heavier bow roller for my anchor and also so I can use the old anchor roller for a 24" bow sprit. I mounted a standup block on the end of the sprit for the tack line and ran it back to the cockpit. The halyard goes up through the mast hound about 20 inches above the jib hound and again is run back to the cockpit along side the main halyard. With the ATt Shute scoop doo-hickey I was able to launch and recover my new sail first try!!!! Not to mention second time ever trying the new Mac 26m all together.

Easy simple set up, even for guys like me that know nothing of what I am doing. I also took a Polly cutting board and cut it to make a small rail seat on the bow pulpit, very exhilarating seat that one!

Would post pics if I knew how....can't sail or use Internet stuff well!
Love the spinn, can't wait to try again!


Dave

[Tomfoolery]

Would post pics if I knew how....can't sail or use Internet stuff well!

For posting a quick pic without signing up with any hosting service, go to http://www.tinypic.com, upload the picture, and copy the resulting web address that has [img*][/img*] at the ends. Paste it right into your post, but put it on its own line so there isn't text on the ends. Hit the preview button, and you should see your pic. The asterisks aren't part of the ubb code, by the way, but it won't show in my post unless I mess them up a bit. If you hit the 'quote' button on someone's post that has a pic in it, you can see the ubb code in their post, to give you an idea of what it looks like.

Or you can use a hosting service like photobucket and others, but you need to set up an account (free, but not everyone wants to do that).

I'm telling you this so that you post some pics so we can see them. Of course.

[Wandering]

Apologies Sailfish, I did not return to this posting until now. I don't have anything to add, the ATN tacker I have found to be really good, though I don't like the pulling/ jerking on the forestay when the wind changes etc, hence my reservations on the 1/8th forestay and the risk of de-masting. Let me know if you have other questions.

I have looked at and considered the selden top down furler. Mainly because my genoa shredded itself badly last year plus I have a first of a kind Neil Pryde main sail that has 30 extra sq feet of roach, full battened. With the damage to the genoa, I am now waiting for a jib from Judy B sails. This led me to consider whether or not I could benefit from having the spinnaker ready to furl and go once I swing to running with the wind or if I am in light wind, given the trade off for pointing with the jib versus having another genoa. This gives me extra options versus the chute scoop approach.

If I could work out a way to keep that 90 feet of spinnaker sheet from flopping into the water that would be handy.

[Boblee]

Ours is pretty much the same as Wandering except the clew is attached to a slightly longer anchor roller with a block led back to the cockpit and the sheets go right to the front stern rails though blocks to the winch which gives a fair bit more area to collect air especially when running.
The Spinnaker is my favourite sail and works great/better by itself.