Hull damage to 26x on port side...

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White90GT
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Hull damage to 26x on port side...

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I somewhat introduced myself over in the trailer forum, but I'll mention it here as well.
I'm Carl and my daughter is a part of Red Skies Sea Scout Ship 208 crew (see facebook). Our Ship was donated a 26x MacGregor about a month ago after the previous owner was caught up in a water spout at 5am on a Tuesday morning while camping in the boat in a small cut off the Houston Ship Channel. The boat was spun around a couple of times and dropped/slammed against some rocks (rocks stacked like a jeddi inside a small cove). The port side of the boat suffered significant damage, but we are hoping to repair it. The trailer like all original steel MacGregor trailers had a rusted out tongue and other issues. We've already fixed most of that and are about to turn our attention to repairing the boat.

The rigging all looked good when we picked up the boat except for one slightly bent spreader. It looks like all the damage is on the port side, mainly down at the bottom just as it curves from the side to the bottom. It looks to all be more than a foot away from the port side stringer, so I think the rigidity of the hull will be fine. Our Skipper is decent at fiberglass work and is going to do the repairs himself. The boat is currently dry docked at his sister's house right here in my neighborhood.

Anyways on with some pictures...
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Uploading more pictures to photobucket tonight, my phone doesn't get good signal in my office. We are hoping to have the boat and trailer sea and travel worthy by July 11th as we are traveling to Canyon lake with the crew to take our SCUBA diving test and do some sailing.
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PIcs of outside...
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Inside port cabinets, looking aft along stringer on floor.

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All the yellow was spray on foam insulation. We used a big piece of vinyl and some spray foam to make a quick patch to get the boat from the guys boat slip (he had a lift at his dock and had the boat up out of the water and drained for us to patch), over to the launch where we pulled it out.
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Re: Hull damage to 26x on port side...

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That is some significant damage alright :o .... Hopefully Y'all can get Her ship shape in time for the fourth :) Take care & Fair winds. Ron.
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That's probably not a big deal for a good fiberglass person to fix. I've seen MUCH worse that has been repaired. The trick is to know what you are doing.
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That should buff right out. ;)
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tlgibson97 wrote:That should buff right out. ;)
That's what we're hoping LOL. I mean it's not like we're having to replace a transom. On the inside it really doesn't look that bad, so I'm thinking we build up the inside first, then sand down the inside nice and smooth and start laying fresh glass over it. I'm hoping Skipper gets started on it this week or weekend. I need to go get the Outboard running again.
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Post by Hamin' X »

I think that what you are calling a stringer is part of the water ballast tank system. You might want to fill the ballast tank from the inside with a hose, to check for leaks in the damaged areas, before you do the outside repairs.

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Well, a little over a month ago we floated the boat and all the repairs were water tight. We had issues with the carbs and fuel system so we didn't take it out that day.
I had taken apart and cleaned the carbs before that outing and we had drained the fuel from the tanks by siphoning it out, but apparently we didn't get it all out because even after cleaning the carbs, the boat would start, but wouldn't rev up right and wouldn't stay running for very long and wouldn't idle. So we had a boat mechanic relative come over and look and he pulled the carbs and found trash in them again. He rebuilt all 3 carbs and media blasted them, so they all look new now. We removed both gas tanks and cleaned them out properly this time as well as cleaned out the fuel lines. One problem we didn't realize we were having is that with two gas tanks the previous owner had put a valve in the back for switching between the tanks, but didn't mark which way was which on the valve. So when we thought we had the valve pointing towards the port side tank, it wasn't getting any fuel at all. Its a 1/4 turn valve, so pointing to starboard works for the starboard tank, but to get to the port tank you turn it to point downward. Pointing any other direction closes it off completely. So after all that we got everything back together on Saturday evening and fired the engine up on muffs. Idled great, just a slight cough which seems common for outboards. I was able to adjust the idle/air screw a little to get rid of some of that cough, it is sitting at 2.5 turns out now.

We launched the :macx: on Sunday around noon and had the jib and main sails furled up. I took it for its first spin and the motor worked great. There's no speedometer on it so I have no idea what it was doing speedwise. I'd say for a 26 foot boat with a little 50 hp motor, it did pretty well. It was leaving a nice wake behind us and almost felt like it was up on plane. One thing I must say is if you are in a tight area for your launch like launching in a cove/inlet, make sure you are ready to give it some throttle to get the boat turned quickly if there is any wind. The boat is so light and so tall, the wind immediately started pushing the bow towards the rocks next to the launch area. I had to give it some forward throttle to get the boat turned away with the wind pushing it towards the rocks. Not very maneuverable at low speeds.

We had a debate on whether I or our skipper was going to run the :macx: out and put up the sails for the first time. I elected to sail with the girls on our 19 foot dophin since the winds were a bit to heavy for the girls to sail it by themselves. Winds were probably 10-15 knots gusting to 20-25 at times. Skipper knows more about bigger boat sailing and rigging, so I made him take the :macx: . We sailed off in the dolphin and kind of watched skipper from a distance. We saw him raise the main sail and fiddle around a bit, but then he took it down again. Then he raised the Jib and sailed around with it for a while. When we stopped and traded kids out between boats he told me he couldn't figure out the rigging/traveler system for the main sail. I think maybe some things are missing. Does the rear of the boom use blocks to control the sail? Or just cleats on either side or ??? I had printed the manual a while back and gave Skipper a copy, but I don't know what he did with it.

Either way aside from not being able to sail with the main, and then later in the day, the battery got weak and would no longer start the motor, the day went well. The ballast system worked and filled with water with no leaks, the patches worked on the port side where all the damage was, and the motor worked well all day. About as successful of an outing as you can have when you get a used boat that suffered some major hull damage and sat in the saltwater for a couple of days.

As far as our sailing the little 19' dolphin, we had a rain storm blow through while on the water and it brought some really nice wind. So much so that with me (235 lbs) and 4 girls (ranging from 90 lbs up to probably 130) we were all up on the starboard side rail as far out as we could lean and still got the port side rub rail a little wet LOL. Let out the main a touch and leveled the boat out some and I swear that little dolphin got up on plane probably getting close to 20 mph!! That was fun and none of the girls (ages 13-14) got scared a bit.
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Post by Wayne nicol »

awesome times, and well done with all the repairs.
but why is your battery getting weak, is the alternator not working.
yup, they can be a little tricky when it comes to trailering :D
i am sure the boat will serve you well, and the girls will have a blast 8)
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any pics of the finished repairs.
pics of the main rigging will help for the folks to assist you with that!
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Re: Hull damage to 26x on port side...

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I haven't shot any pictures personally, I asked skipper to send me some, but he hasn't yet. I may try to swing by today and snap a few to post up.

I need to do some finishing touches with the trailer and a mast support before we trailer it any further than our neighborhood boat slip. Apparently the previous owner lost the mast support for trailering, so I'm going to build one out of pipe and a roller or something. Also need to weld the starboard side trailer guide post on. I may make some side braces as well to help align the boat better.

I think we may use the boat a few times and end up selling it to make a big chunk of change for our crew. We are hoping to go to Sea Base Florida next year, but that is over $1000 per kid/person. So if we could sell this boat for $9/10k that would go a long ways towards getting our kids there.

We have been offered another 25 or 26 foot sailboat as a donation as well. I forget the brand/type, but I do know it is on a trailer and believe it also has a fold down keel. The name starts with an S is all I can remember.

We have a 26 foot westerly keel boat that we keep slipped in a Marina close by and take sailing in Galveston bay when we can.
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