My POOR 26M

A forum for discussing topics relating to MacGregor Powersailor Sailboats
User avatar
dreamer
First Officer
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:02 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Caledon, Ontario

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by dreamer »

That sucks! I didn't notice anything when we were at the launch ramp. With the damaged rudder I wonder if that's what was messing up the autopilot.
User avatar
Crikey
Admiral
Posts: 1833
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:43 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Washago, Muskoka, Ontario, Canada, Earth, Singularity.Suzuki DF60A. Boat name: Crikey!

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Crikey »

Didn't you have IDA rudders (the after market ones)? My old mast foot was pretty shodily installed when I had to remove it and re-drill for the new mast blank.

R.
User avatar
Tomfoolery
Admiral
Posts: 6135
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:42 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Rochester, NY '99X BF50 'Tomfoolery'

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Tomfoolery »

Man, that stinks! You going to make the rendezvous? Or more to the point, is Pegasus going to make the rendezvous?
User avatar
Crikey
Admiral
Posts: 1833
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:43 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Washago, Muskoka, Ontario, Canada, Earth, Singularity.Suzuki DF60A. Boat name: Crikey!

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Crikey »

Judging by some of the older videos of you doing warp nine in Pegasus, it's probably a wonder that things lasted as long as they did! I'd like to see a picture of your bent bracket. If you looked at my (now) very old welded reinforcement you might get some ideas of what to do next. Haven't had any issues since then.
Going for a muscle head main?

R.
User avatar
NiceAft
Admiral
Posts: 6697
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:28 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Upper Dublin,PA, USA: 2005M 50hp.Honda4strk.,1979 Phantom Sport Sailboat, 9'Achilles 6HP Merc 4strk

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by NiceAft »

Crikey,

I've had a MuscleHead main for quite a few years now, and it is a different sailing from a traditional shapped sail.

Because of the extra cloth up high, it heels much quicker. I believe it gives better sailing at the lower wind speeds, but when the winds pick up a little, be prepared to let out some of the main sheet. In a good breeze, you also need to balance the headsail. You can get spun around easily. :)

Ray
Last edited by NiceAft on Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Tomfoolery
Admiral
Posts: 6135
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:42 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Rochester, NY '99X BF50 'Tomfoolery'

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Tomfoolery »

Geoff

Did you go for any options? More than 1 full batten? More then one reef point? Etc.
User avatar
beene
Site Admin
Posts: 2546
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:31 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Ontario Canada, '07 26M, Merc 75 4s PEGASUS

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by beene »

Macgregor 26m Cruising Mainsail (Challenge Hi Modulus Dacron)
[Sail Cloth:Challenge Hi Modulus 6.03 Dacron]
[Design:CrossCut]
[Wind Range:Usually under 20 kts, occasionally to 25]
[Reefs:2 Reefs]
[Batten Type:Standard Fiberglass (Not Tapered)]
[Battens:1 Full, 3 Partial]
[Trim Stripes?:Draft Stripes]



Subtotal: $786.00
Tax: $0.00
Shipping Cost: $0.00
Grand Total: $786.00 USD
User avatar
Curwen
Engineer
Posts: 154
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:19 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26D
Location: Salt Lake City, UT

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Curwen »

This might be the evil-est thread ever...thanks to the links a few comments above...I now know what is on the winter upgrade list
User avatar
Tomfoolery
Admiral
Posts: 6135
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:42 am
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Rochester, NY '99X BF50 'Tomfoolery'

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Tomfoolery »

Crikey wrote:My old mast foot was pretty shodily installed when I had to remove it and re-drill for the new mast blank.
FWIW, my mast was drilled crooked, and the light doesn't quite point dead ahead as well as the spreaders and top hardware, and even the boom was drilled such that it's rotated a bit. Not huge, but fixture to drill repetitive holes would have been cheap to make and useful for reducing layout time. And the parts would have been drilled true. :wink:
User avatar
delevi
Admiral
Posts: 2184
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 1:03 am
Location: San Francisco Catalina 380, former 26M owner
Contact:

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by delevi »

I have said for some time that the rotating mast is a liability. For anyone who carries any kind of rig loads and sails in winds of 12kts+ Go ahead and sight up the mast when it's rotated and the boat pointing on a close reach or higher. In fact, it may be obvious just on the trailer. The mast will have an obvious sideways bend, possibly even an S curve to it. I never had mine detach from the plate, but I was on board Beene's boat when this happened... though wasn't there for the haul out to see the carnage after. We didn't even know something was wrong.

Sorry to hear about your troubles G. Good call on the new main, though if you have a full batten, you will find it harder to hoist the sail. A proper luff receptacle and appropriate luff car or slide is really important for any full batten.

Wish I had advice on the rudders. Saw you break 3 now. I broke at least that many, though only IDA plastic ones. Never broke the stock fiberglass rudders. Brackets are a different story as they do distort frequently and require to be bent back. I remember one occasion where the loads sheared the bolt (which was upsized) or ate least it sheared the thread and the bolt popped out. Nothing like dragging your rudder behind you :?

Good Luck.
L.
User avatar
Crikey
Admiral
Posts: 1833
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:43 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Washago, Muskoka, Ontario, Canada, Earth, Singularity.Suzuki DF60A. Boat name: Crikey!

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Crikey »

beene wrote:Macgregor 26m Cruising Mainsail (Challenge Hi Modulus Dacron)
[Sail Cloth:Challenge Hi Modulus 6.03 Dacron]
[Design:CrossCut]
[Wind Range:Usually under 20 kts, occasionally to 25]
[Reefs:2 Reefs]
[Batten Type:Standard Fiberglass (Not Tapered)]
[Battens:1 Full, 3 Partial]
[Trim Stripes?:Draft Stripes]



Subtotal: $786.00
Tax: $0.00
Shipping Cost: $0.00
Grand Total: $786.00 USD
Ouch, double ouch .... $299us for each rudder (presuming you're ordering two) comes to another $700 after tax and customs duty. This is the first time I realized a mainsail came in at around a thousand bucks!
Geoff, I'd add another 60 to that sum to cover the cost of a bottle of Scotch.... sufficient to drown your sorrows.
:cry:

R.
User avatar
Catigale
Site Admin
Posts: 10421
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:59 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Admiral .............Catigale 2002X.......Lots of Harpoon Hobie 16 Skiffs....Island 17
Contact:

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Catigale »

Might be twice the price of stock but younger actually getting Dacron (TM) and certainly not the end run stuff.
User avatar
Gazmn
Admiral
Posts: 1129
Joined: Wed May 31, 2006 10:22 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
Location: Bayside, NY '97X, E-tec 115 Pontoon, The "Ollie Gray" & '01 Chevy Tahoe W/ Tow Pkg; AL 2X Trlr.

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by Gazmn »

Beene:
Sorry for the problems Bro. Thanks for sharing tho. Many I'm sure will learn & be forewarned.

Delevi:
Please excuse me, if I've missed your recent posts. But it's a pleasure hearing from you & getting your insights :)

Sail On!
User avatar
NiceAft
Admiral
Posts: 6697
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:28 pm
Sailboat: MacGregor 26M
Location: Upper Dublin,PA, USA: 2005M 50hp.Honda4strk.,1979 Phantom Sport Sailboat, 9'Achilles 6HP Merc 4strk

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by NiceAft »

Beene said:
This Forum brings good people together to share in a common love of sailing
Amen to that brother 8)

Ray
User avatar
delevi
Admiral
Posts: 2184
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 1:03 am
Location: San Francisco Catalina 380, former 26M owner
Contact:

Re: My POOR 26M

Post by delevi »

Thanks Gaz. Been a long time.
fair winds
Leon
Post Reply