Tomfoolery wrote:Just looked at the data sheet for the X, and it shows the 150 genoa as 206sf. So now I'm a bit confused. I guess the dimensions need to be checked against the fore-triangle dimensions.
The headsail size on the info sheet is the MAXIMUM - it's not really the sail you get with the boat. I did ask Mike about that. The specs are just there to tell you what is POSSIBLE, not what IS. The main specs are RADICALLY different if you have the furling main. My understanding of the factory data sheet was that it was a guide for what is possible, not a description of what you actually get.
The headsails were not included from the factory on the M boats in the year I purchased - you had to buy it separate, (was not included - not even a working jib). I don't know much about the X boat sail plan. Maybe they gave you a jib?
Thanks for setting me straight Judy, they should put you on the payroll
One of the great things about sail boats is that we are always learning new things and even better when the new things we learn are backed by experts is the area
From your recent posts I have enlarged my knowledge and understanding of sails, thats always a great thing in my book, the more I know the better my decision making becomes
Tomfoolery wrote:Just looked at the data sheet for the X, and it shows the 150 genoa as 206sf. So now I'm a bit confused. I guess the dimensions need to be checked against the fore-triangle dimensions.
The factory drawing was the spec the factory used when it invited suppliers to bid tosupply OEM equipment. There was a suppliers section on the website with drawings and spec for every part used to assemble the 26M.
I think the area of 206 sf for the Genoa is marketing brochure hyperbole. Kind of like how fast the hulls can go with a 50 hp ob
bobbob wrote:I have a heck of a time getting my 150 Genoa to unfurl past the shrouds - there's still lots left on the roller although I have no idea how much since I have never been able to completely unfurl it
Is there a trick to this?
I only have a 150 genny and, even in very light winds, I've never had it show a hint of sticking when unfurling***. That suggests to me you've definitely got something awry.
*** not counting the inevitable snag of the furling line in the locking cam cleat.
Hello,
My fair leads were held in with stainless sheet metal screws. No bolt underneath. I put on the new ones (like pictured) cuz' mine were cut half way through too. I used 5200 to help those screws hold.
DaveC426913 wrote:What I do have problems with is the furling line base plate eyestrap.
Mine looks like this:
The furler line has cut about 50% of its way through.
I want it to look like this:
But I can't get up inside the space forward of the anchor bucket to even touch the bolts, let alone undo them...
Dave, i have the same issue, and am about to swap mine out. Many on this forum have cut an access hatch into the front "bulkhead" to gain access to that area. Then they practice laying on their belly or back with both hands over their heads as far as they will go while sweating and cussing and stabbing fingertips into the pointy unfinished fiberglass layup that's inside. But eventually, you can get to just about the whole space up there if you make the hatch big enough.
bobbob wrote:I have a heck of a time getting my 150 Genoa to unfurl past the shrouds - there's still lots left on the roller although I have no idea how much since I have never been able to completely unfurl it
Is there a trick to this?
I only have a 150 genny and, even in very light winds, I've never had it show a hint of sticking when unfurling***. That suggests to me you've definitely got something awry.
*** not counting the inevitable snag of the furling line in the locking cam cleat.
As I posted earlier, I had the same problem with my 150. My problem was the furling line was too thick. When unfurling, the drum fills up with line, and stopped the Genny from getting to full extension. My drum filled to capacity too early, and jammed. When trying to furl, the line was jammed. Replacing the line with a thinner one rectified the problem.
bobbob wrote:I just haven't had a chance to look at my furling line yet You are using a 5/16" line?
My Mac is currently going through its winterization prep, so I can't answer at this time, or for a few more days ( maybe longer if the shop puts me on their low priority list).
bobbob wrote:I just haven't had a chance to look at my furling line yet You are using a 5/16" line?
My Mac is currently going through its winterization prep, so I can't answer at this time, or for a few more days ( maybe longer if the shop puts me on their low priority list).
Ray
Mine is more like 3/16". Could be hard on the hands, but I never have to pull it very hard, so no problem. And plenty of room on the drum.
Out of curiosity, I checked BWY's listing for furler line, and they show 3/6" x 45 ft yacht braid. I assume it's a typo, and they meant 3/16".
Also, from the FFII manual, under the specs for Furling Line:
5/32” or 3/16” braid on braid dacron. If you
prefer a larger diameter, you should decore
the portion of line forward in the
cockpit. (Otherwise the larger line won’t fit
onto the furling drum.)
It's possible mine's as small as 5/32". It's pretty small line.
Whoops! I read that as 3/32". I am 99% sure I am using 5/32" right now. I was contemplating going down to 1/4". Never thought about decoring part of the line though, that might be worth a try too.
Hmmm - I am furling a huge Genoa - over 208 square feet and it furls pretty easy - and my plastic furler is all bent up from getting baked in the sun while tied down tightly on the mast - the heat has put a few permanent deformities in the thing yet it still furls in an out just fine and I have a HUGE sail so I know I am using a ton of line and it never winds up bad as long as I hold the line in my had as I let out the sail..
The only thing I can think of is that on my system there are no eyes like the ones in the pictures - my furling line goes through a block. (You know - with a pulley) doesn't everyone have a block? What's with the eye thing? Where does that go?
But eventually, you can get to just about the whole space up there if you make the hatch big enough. 
