Trailering Furled Genoa Ideas ??

[Inquisitor]

What do you all do?

I have the CDI furler with the Genoa. I've trailered with it strapped to the mast flopping around in the wind. It gets grungy on the road. I've trailered with it inside the boat, but it has to be bent 180 in the rear berth. It leaves a kink when raised and not enough tension can be used to straiten it out. Any great ideas out there?

I'm wondering if I could simply make some kind of container using PVC pipe.

Maybe using one size for the furled sail with a coupling to expand to hold the CDI and then go so far as having a screw on end cap.
Then... maybe mount it under the trailer neck and run it back under the trailer above the axle.

Surely, there's a better way.

[Jimmyt]

Lots of different approaches. Here is mine. Doesn't flop around, but will not protect from road grunge. Haven't seen a totally enclosed headsail carrying system before. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... em&id=2119

[Tomfoolery]

I normally do like Jimmyt showed, but sometimes I undo the top of the forestay and pull the whole thing back so the furler drum rests on the pulpit with a bungie to hold it fast. I do that for winter storage anyway, under a tarp, but with the sail removed.

[Inquisitor]

Lots of different approaches. Here is mine. Doesn't flop around, but will not protect from road grunge. Haven't seen a totally enclosed headsail carrying system before. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... em&id=2119

That's sure ominous... guess the crutch being there is better than the alternative. Then again when everyone said mast crutch... I thought they were talking about holding up the mast.

Oh! And I don't have UV trailing edge... so grunge looks worse. Black solves that problem... BRILIANT. Maybe, I'll just go with that solution.

[Jimmyt]

[quote=Jimmyt post_id=345936 time=<a href="tel:1605024502">1605024502</a> user_id=16979]
Lots of different approaches. Here is mine. Doesn't flop around, but will not protect from road grunge. Haven't seen a totally enclosed headsail carrying system before. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... em&id=2119

That's sure ominous... guess the crutch being there is better than the alternative. Then again when everyone said mast crutch... I thought they were talking about holding up the mast.

Oh! And I don't have UV trailing edge... so grunge looks worse. Black solves that problem... BRILIANT. Maybe, I'll just go with that solution.
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The crutch was what I inherited from the PO. I hope you looked at the one I made out of sewer pipe to replace it. The crutch was always good for a few comments though.

I think there is a new UV material that is much lighter than what I have. I would think lighter is better if you don't have to take out a mortgage to get it.

[Bobglas]

BWY genoa cover for trailering keeps the road dirt off. 6' wood railing w/ plastic Folgers coffee can to hold the furler. Bungee everything together w/ mast.

[C Buchs]

I built this PVC support:



I got the idea from the mods on this site. Probably this one https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... em&id=1841 or this one https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... tem&id=475 or this one https://macgregorsailors.com/mods/index ... tem&id=221

The ultimate would be what was done on Knot Shore. http://www.enctrader.com/hardtlefamily/ ... efault.htm Check out his "Roller Furling Traveller".

Jeff

[Neo]

My spreaders and Furler are all quickly detachable so the entire length of my Furler lays over my mast (does not extend past) and is wrap-strapped down. All my stays end up neat and tidy and I prefer it like that.
We get some pretty hot days over here and if you don't secure your Furler to a flat surface it turns into a wild serpent

[Inquisitor]

My spreaders and Furler are all quickly detachable so the entire length of my Furler lays over my mast (does not extend past) and is wrap-strapped down. All my stays end up neat and tidy and I prefer it like that.
We get some pretty hot days over here and if you don't secure your Furler to a flat surface it turns into a wild serpent

Whey you say quickly, you mean wrenching the bolts or do you have some special mechanisms at the spreaders and furler? I hate all those flopping around cables. If I could lay them all down the mast, that would be worth some extra setup/teardown time.

[Tomfoolery]

Whey you say quickly, you mean wrenching the bolts or do you have some special mechanisms at the spreaders and furler? I hate all those flopping around cables. If I could lay them all down the mast, that would be worth some extra setup/teardown time.

I use tractor pins on my spreader/mast socket connections, and sometimes also pop the end caps out of the spreaders. Very neat when trailering. Spreaders go below decks. I also normally wrench the forestay connection so the furler can be slid back, with the drum shank resting on the bow rail, held there by a couple of bungies. Lots of the little red bungies with the single ball on the end (Walmart specials) are used to tie everything up neatly for transport.

I should mention that for short trips to another location, I don’t bother undoing the forestay connection, and just use a length of hardwood with more bungies to support the furler. But for long trips, I like to button things up a bit neater.

[Starscream]

I don't know why I always feel like I do things in a lazy way when I read these posts.

I just flop the furler on the cabin top and tape it to the bow pulpit with electrical tape. I don't disconnect anything. 11 years and thousands of road miles later, and...still good.

One of the few benefits of a Canadian climate: the thought of the heat warping my furler never enters into my thought process. Even at our hottest summer temperatures, the furler springs back into perfect shape, every time.

[C Buchs]

Whey you say quickly, you mean wrenching the bolts or do you have some special mechanisms at the spreaders and furler? I hate all those flopping around cables. If I could lay them all down the mast, that would be worth some extra setup/teardown time.

I use tractor pins on my spreader/mast socket connections, and sometimes also pop the end caps out of the spreaders. Very neat when trailering. Spreaders go below decks. I also normally wrench the forestay connection so the furler can be slid back, with the drum shank resting on the bow rail, held there by a couple of bungies. Lots of the little red bungies with the single ball on the end (Walmart specials) are used to tie everything up neatly for transport.

I should mention that for short trips to another location, I don’t bother undoing the forestay connection, and just use a length of hardwood with more bungies to support the furler. But for long trips, I like to button things up a bit neater.

I have the tractor pins on my spreaders also. I got a set from a farm supply store that had a little chain on them so that you can't drop them. The only problem with them is that they aren't stainless. I sail almost exclusively in freshwater, so it's not a big problem for me, but when I replace them I plan to use these stainless ones from bwy http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3461-1v4.htm. I just need to find a source for some small stainless chain.

Now that I've said all that, I'll say that I don't trailer with my spreaders disconnected. I've done it a couple of times and it does make getting around on deck a lot easier with everything out of the way, but I ended up with a tangled mess when I put the mast up. I'm sure with more practice, we could have figured out how to keep everything straight, but after a couple of times of having to take the mast back down right after raising it because a halyard was on the wrong side of a spreader, I decided to leave them attached.

Jeff

[Tomfoolery]

Whey you say quickly, you mean wrenching the bolts or do you have some special mechanisms at the spreaders and furler? I hate all those flopping around cables. If I could lay them all down the mast, that would be worth some extra setup/teardown time.

I use tractor pins on my spreader/mast socket connections, and sometimes also pop the end caps out of the spreaders. Very neat when trailering. Spreaders go below decks. I also normally wrench the forestay connection so the furler can be slid back, with the drum shank resting on the bow rail, held there by a couple of bungies. Lots of the little red bungies with the single ball on the end (Walmart specials) are used to tie everything up neatly for transport.

I should mention that for short trips to another location, I don’t bother undoing the forestay connection, and just use a length of hardwood with more bungies to support the furler. But for long trips, I like to button things up a bit neater.

I have the tractor pins on my spreaders also. I got a set from a farm supply store that had a little chain on them so that you can't drop them. The only problem with them is that they aren't stainless. I sail almost exclusively in freshwater, so it's not a big problem for me, but when I replace them I plan to use these stainless ones from bwy http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3461-1v4.htm. I just need to find a source for some small stainless chain.

Now that I've said all that, I'll say that I don't trailer with my spreaders disconnected. I've done it a couple of times and it does make getting around on deck a lot easier with everything out of the way, but I ended up with a tangled mess when I put the mast up. I'm sure with more practice, we could have figured out how to keep everything straight, but after a couple of times of having to take the mast back down right after raising it because a halyard was on the wrong side of a spreader, I decided to leave them attached.

Mine are carbon steel also, and I too am in fresh water. After maybe 10 years now, they're showing a little rust, but still not bad. They were super cheap at Home Depot as I recall, but if I replace them, I'll use stainless.

As to the confuses lines, I get around that by strapping the halyards to the mast at the spreader socket with a few bungies, some above (forward side) and some below (aft) the mast in their normal orientation, then popping out the spreaders and doing the rest of the clean up.

[Neo]

Whey you say quickly, you mean wrenching the bolts or do you have some special mechanisms at the spreaders and furler? I hate all those flopping around cables. If I could lay them all down the mast, that would be worth some extra setup/teardown time.

Yep ... My Spreader bracket and spreader bars (both ends) are all slot/snap-in pins/bolts, but the stays are still on a Shackle.