New 17 foot sailboat - not impressed

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New 17 foot sailboat - not impressed

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New 17 foot sailboat - not impressed 8)

https://www.puursailboats.com/boat
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What’s wrong?

It looks like a fun craft.
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dlandersson wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:39 pm New 17 foot sailboat - not impressed 8)

https://www.puursailboats.com/boat
I think I would have to agree... because the price is higher than the retail of the last 26M and its all simplistic ply design (all flat faceted chines)

Comes in kit form also... if you need a winter project. BUT, if you had the skill level to assemble it, you could just buy plans for something like https://www.woodenboat.com/boat-plans-k ... hy-ryd-162 for $80 and save... 8 grand!
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Ok, "apples to apples" - the Venture 17 at least had a small cabin - this looks like an overgrown Sunfish. :wink:
NiceAft wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 4:20 pm What’s wrong?

It looks like a fun craft.
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In 1979 I went to the NYC Boat Show to buy a Sunfish. I ended up with a Phantom.
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As much as I am crazy in love with my M, the sailing thrills I get sailing on edge, hiking out inches above the water, with that 14 foot Phantom can not be matched. I still have it, forty-two years on.

Remember all of those traditional sailors who belittle our Mac’s, let’s not become one of those, in reverse, too expensive. :D

For those who purchase one of those 17foot daysailors, I hope I can get to be on the water with you.
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You can buy one ready to go for just under $28k!
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Looks like a sporty sail, and I like the look of it. But, at $28k, I'll politely pass.
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When it grows to 28-29ft, 8'6' beam, water ballast, up to 70hp OB capable , 6'0 cabin call me. $28k/17ft= $1647ft * 28 = $46,117 I'm in.
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Hi All!

The PUUR 17 KIT PACKAGES only total $16,500… not $28,000….I think that might for a finished boat, not the kits.

Looks like a nice boat!
Pleasant lines!
Fore and main sails!
Nice proportions for a 17 ft daysailer!
Could make a sporty one/two person sailboat that looks like it could possibly carry two ( kids anyway) more for a leisurely light wind sail
Like the self bailing cockpit!
Everything nice about a broad beam for stability!

The SnapFit prebeveled CNC accurate precut parts are a plus as it takes away the “oppsies” and “aw fiddlesticks 🤬 “ inherent when going from paper plans to layout to cut parts ( been there, done that, have the Tee shirts) :D :D ! No big slabs of plywood panels to lug/maneuver/store/(damage). Just precision cut parts that will mate together.

The incremental sub kit approach let one buy the kits as one completes the prior one…saves limited workshop space.
Allows one to concentrate on one submit at a time which can be less overwhelming for some folks.

Personally, getting a paper plan to cut wood and then getting it uniformity beveled and just fits (necessary for a strong structure) isn’t easy when having to do it for a hundred plus parts….🙄😳🫣😵‍💫

It all depends on your situation as to whether this kind of a kit fits to your abilities, desires, budget, space and available time.

While it’s not something for us at this time in our lives it very well could have been in our early years just getting started.

I sorta like it and it’s up-to-the-21st Century approach.
I think this should appeal to the younger crowd and their more modern contemporary approach to getting things done.
It’s kind of fun!

I also think if it were possible to have a true “Mac26 like” precision precut complete kit it would also find its buyers too!

With the CNC approach they can build kits to order and avoid the inventory holding issues.
Scalable part production on a demand basis.

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Russ wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:15 am You can buy one ready to go for just under $28k!
Like anything else, one’s disposable income determines the difference between what is affordable for you and what is not. A Lincoln or a Ford. What that boat is not, is a Sunfish. Not comparable.

In my case, an M, a 14’ Phantom sailboat, a 9’ Achilles inflatable with 6hp Merc 4 stroke, and an 8’ inflatable toy, places me out of any more boat purchases. I would like a canoe, but know better than broaching that subject.
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What’s disposable income?🙄🤔
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Well, in my fleet I’ve got a Boston Whaler Harpoon 4.6, which in my estimation is among the best daysailors ever made. It’s fast, comfortable, unsinkable, can’t turtle, and handles amazingly well, even in rough weather. It was horrendously expensive when new, which is why they only ever sold about 1500 of them. It has Harken equipment, Kenyon spars, North sails, mahogany bright work, etc. - the best of everything went into it. New, it sold for about $7,200 (you could have bought a good car for that money back then!)… that’s about $33,400 in current dollars. And it was worth every dang penny.

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kmclemore wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:27 am Well, in my fleet I’ve got a Boston Whaler Harpoon 4.6, which in my estimation is among the best daysailors ever made. It’s fast, comfortable, unsinkable, can’t turtle, and handles amazingly well, even in rough weather. It was horrendously expensive when new, which is why they only ever sold about 1500 of them. It has Harken equipment, Kenyon spars, North sails, mahogany bright work, etc. - the best of everything went into it. New, it sold for about $7,200 (you could have bought a good car for that money back then!)… that’s about $33,400 in current dollars. And it was worth every dang penny.

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NiceAft wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:44 pm
Russ wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:15 am You can buy one ready to go for just under $28k!
Like anything else, one’s disposable income determines the difference between what is affordable for you and what is not. A Lincoln or a Ford. What that boat is not, is a Sunfish. Not comparable.

In my case, an M, a 14’ Phantom sailboat, a 9’ Achilles inflatable with 6hp Merc 4 stroke, and an 8’ inflatable toy, places me out of any more boat purchases. I would like a canoe, but know better than broaching that subject.
Hi Ray ,
Their,s an Old Guy around ur age ! :P , & his wife sail here in the upper inner harbour with two canoe,s bridged together bow & aft approx 3ft apart sail kit on the front bridge & electric motor on aft bridge , two paddles off each stern as rudders , battery in one the cooler in the other one person in each canoe sitting aft , not sure what they use for a dagger board or leeboards, just so as u know their,s other options open to U :D :D :D

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