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Why Man (sic) cannot navigate by GPS alone...

Post by Catigale »

Pulled this story from the Cape Cod online website- sometime ago a commercial ship ran aground off Nantucket due to them being way off course.

Turns out the GPS antenna lead had fallen off, and the GPS had gone into 'Dead reckoning' mode which basically extrapolates position from last heading...

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Does your GPS do this?? I confess I dont know what my display would look like if this mode came on.....Hopefully with red sirens...to boot..

I will certainly know this before I go out again....
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My GPS tells me when/if it has lost signal.
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Post by impinnacr »

That's a good story. It always reminds of the frailty of electronics and technology in general. I work in a profession that relies on the usage of technology alot. However, the doctor's physical exam and subjective, clinical intuition is also important. I have seen many erroneous lab tests and misdiagnoses based on gathering data.
Don't get me wrong, technology is fantastic when everything works perfectly.

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Post by argonaut »

Yup...like spell check and calculators everybody depends on this stuff now. I read the other day that there was a GPS outage in certain places attributed to solar energy... maybe it makes sense to keep LORAN alive.
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Re: Why Man (sic) cannot navigate by GPS alone...

Post by Shane »

Catigale wrote:..... a commercial ship ran aground off Nantucket due to them being way off course.

Turns out the GPS antenna lead had fallen off, and the GPS had gone into 'Dead reckoning' mode which basically extrapolates position from last heading...
One of the BC Ferries fleet, MV Queen of the North, ran straight into an island in the middle of the night last March. The next phase of the review is about to begin, but IIRC (this is not in the link I've included), after realizing that they had not made a required course change 17 min. prior, the helmswoman did 'did not know' how to over-ride the auto pilot installed a month or so previously. Why anyone would accept the helm if that were the case, I cannot fathom.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb ... ml?ref=rss

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Good link.....found some info there that was very interesting.
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Post by beene »

The Eagle Seachamp 2000c df has a message that comes up on the screen every time you turn it on that will not go away until you clear it.....
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Which is another reason why I always have a paper chart backup. :)

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Post by Highlander »

Some of my charts are 12-15yrs old but then I know most of the waters I sail in but they are a nice back up in the fog or for night sailing I fugure its better than no chart at all
If I was to go into new territory I would purchase a new chart for that area

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Old charts make great wallpaper.
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Take the GPS with a grain of salt

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To quote the great Mr. Torroba who sailed from Panama to the Phillipines in an open dugout canoe,

"If you watch and pay attention you will never hit a reef,” Alberto told us. “Sailors who get shipwrecked do so because of overconfidence in their navigation equipment, not because of a lack of it.”

I have a GPS, but no matter what the GPS says, I am always at the helm with one hand on the wheel and both eyes glued to the front of the boat. I never sail in shallow water. The color of the water changes when it starts to get shallow.

Even if you have a fancy GPS with electronic charts, you will run aground if you don't pay attention. Due to housing developers dumping debris and dirt, natural erosion, recent shipwrecks, etc, you could hit a structure in shallow water if you are not careful.

Overconfidence in your depthfinder will yield the same dismal result: a sinking ship.

That's why I am currently learning how to sail a ship the old-fashioned way... with a sextant, no depth finder, no auto-pilot, and no GPS.
That way, the electronics are there to make it safer for me to sail. If I don't have old-fashioned sailing skills then over-reliance on the electronics will create a hazardous condition when they fail.

I also found easy do-it-yourself sextant plans here: http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/004005.html

Torroba: http://atomvoyages.com/articles/albertotorroba.htm

P.S. I am not advocating going on the open ocean with a homemade sextant made with legos, but the DIY sextant is a very good educational tool. I made one, took it to my sailing class and forced the instructor to teach us how to use it. The DIY Sextant has a printed scale denoted in full degrees. This means that the maximum theoretical accuracy of the instrument is 1 degree x 60 nm/1 degree = 60 nm. This means that the accuracy is within 60 nm x 1.15 miles = 69 miles. The sailing instructor said that you always multiply a sextant's theoretical accuracy by 3 (especially for beginners) as a fudge factor. That means it is accurate to within 69 x 3 = 207 miles. So, if you can figure out which state you're in with this DIY sextant, then congratulations! You've learned how to use a sextant!

P.P.S. This is a quote from the link marked "Torroba" from above by Mr. Torroba:

“The way I calculate latitude,” he explained, “is to find a star whose zenith passes directly over the island I’m heading for. All you need to know is the latitude of your destination and the declination of the star. To measure the angle of that star, I lie on my back on the floor of the boat looking at the sky with one eye just below the lead of the bob line. The string will point to the zenith. The bob line moves like a pendulum as the boat rolls, but after some practice the error is usually less than half a degree, or 30 nautical miles.
“For example, when the star Alnilam, which has a declination of 1 degree 12 minutes south, was directly overhead I knew that I had crossed the equator. If I pointed the bow of my canoe west and kept going on this latitude, sooner or later I would hit the Galapagos.” This is exactly what happened 20 days after he left Panama."

A bob line is just a piece of string with a lead weight on it. Alberto Torroba did not even have a compass. He did not even have charts. He simply memorized the chart and then started sailing! He had a chart when he left Panama, but he lost it in a storm as it got tossed out of his open dugout canoe shortly after he left Panama. :o
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Re: Take the GPS with a grain of salt

Post by Shane »

Thanks for the link. This will be a great one for both the kids... and for me too!

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tomasrey88 wrote: I also found easy do-it-yourself sextant plans here: http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/004005.html
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sextant website down

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The DIY Sextant website seems to be down, so here is a Cut-and-paste of the DIY sextant plans complete with a pic (but not all the pics as I did not save all the pics):

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The CD-Sextant
Build your own sextant
One of the obstacles to learn and practice celestial navigation is the price and availability of sextants. Even the simplest plastic models cost between US$ 50 and 150 and can only be found in a few specialized stores, in big centers. This scares many interested people away from celestial navigation.
That's why a few months ago I published the X-tant Project , a "do-it-yourself" octant design. But while that octant is cheap to build, it requires electric tools, some hard to find materials and considerable work.
So I went on to design an even simpler sextant, which I called CD-Sextant. This small instrument is built using a CD and box. As in the X-Tant Project, I used a few Lego blocks and glass mirrors. No electric tools are necessary to build a CD-Sextant. It's a good science project.

The CD-Sextant (assembled and parts)
The materials are:

materials • A CD with box (you can use those free AOL disks).
• A4 Sticker paper (full page, without label cuts. For printing the scale on inkjet or laser printer)
• 2 small glass mirrors ( 40 mm x 22 mm x 3 mm thick ).
• Lego bricks
o 1 2x4 brick
o 2 2x1 plates
o 1 2x2 brick
o 1 2x2 plate
o A couple more for the shade support (depends on your design)
• Cyanoacrylate glue (Loctite Superbonder).
• Paper cutter (Olfa cutter)
• Ruler
• Scissors
The design takes advantage of the dimensional precision of CD parts and Lego bricks. The sextant arm is the CD itself and the sextant frame is the CD box. The angle is changed by turning the CD.
Of course the small CD radius gives limited precision to the instrument when compared to larger sextants, but it is enough for celestial navigation practice. Because the instrument is so small, care must be taken in all steps (cutting, sticking etc) to achieve the best possible precision.
The CD-Sextant is not only useful for celestial navigation, but also in coast navigation, using simple trigonometric relations. And it is surprisingly strong (I have dropped mine a couple times, with pieces flying in all directions, and it is still working).
Vernier scale sextants
Minutes of arc are very small and reading them is only possible with a precise scale. There are two kinds of minute scales used in sextants. Modern sextants use a drum to trim and read the minutes. One full turn of this drum equals one degree ( or 60' ). This device requires sofisticated machining to build.
The CD-Sextant uses a vernier scale, a simpler but usefull minute scale type. Since the CD-Sextant degrees are small ( due to the small CD radius ) I used a single 60' vernier (larger sextants usually divide each degree in three ticks of 20' ).
For more details on vernier scales click here.
Printing the Scale
The scale is the most difficult sextant component to do using traditional techniques. Fortunately, most of us have a precise printing equipment right on our desktop: an inkjet or laser printer. These machines can print 300 dots per inch (1200 for laser), with enough precision to print a sextant scale.
Sextant scale printer program
In order to achieve the best results, I wrote a small sextant scale printing program. This will print the sextant scale using vector rendering, for best resolution. This is the same program used in the X-tant project.
XtantScalePrinter - version 1.1 - download here
For Windows, 192.874 bytes - This program can be freely used for personal, noncommercial purposes, provided that the credit (name and URL) is not removed from the printed scales.
Mac and Linux users may print this high definition image
(300 DPI) with similar results.

1) To print the CD-Sextant scale, run the program and check the CD-Sextant checkbox.
2) The CD-Sextant is a vernier sextant (see X-tant Project for more details on Verniers). In the case of the CD-Sextant, the small scale radius makes it impossible to divide the scale degrees into smaller ticks. Set the div/degree property to 1. This will give a scale with ticks only for full degrees and a 60' vernier.
3) Select your favorite font. Use size 7.
4) Press the [Print scale] button.
5) After printing, cut around the scale precisely. Don't cut the CD axis hole yet.
Sticking the scale
Sticking the scale is a critical operation. If the scale is not perfectly centered when you stick, you will probably have to remove it in pieces and print a new one. I did this:
1) Lift an edge of the sticker paper backing, in the scale part.

2) Cut the paper backing edge, to expose a small area of the sticker surface.

3) Position the scale on the CD (use the data side), making sure the scale is perfectly centered. Look against a light source to check if scale is centered in the CD center hole. Hold the CD and printed scale with both hands, making sure the printed scale is not out of the CD in any side.
4) Once the scale is centered, press the exposed sticker surface against the CD to stick it. This will secure the scale to the CD in the correct position.

5) Remove the rest of the sticker paper backing and carefully stick the scale, working in one direction, to avoid bubbles and ripples. In the end, the printed scale must be centered and match CD surface perfectly.
6) Use the paper cutter to open the CD axis hole.
Save the printed Vernier (the small scale). It will be the last thing to be stuck, after the mirrors are positioned.
Mirrors
I used 2 equally sized glass mirrors (40 mm x 22 mm, 3 mm tick). Any glass shop will cut these for you. As you know, one of the mirrors must be half silvered. So you must remove half of the mirror silver backing. I used a paper cutter blade for this job (Olfa cutter).

First make a sharp longitudinal cut along the middle of the mirror. Then scratch half of the epoxy protective layer from the back of the mirror, with the blade inclined. The epoxy backing is a hard material, but will come out with patience.
Go easy and don't use any abrasive material or the blade point, to avoid scratching the glass. Once the epoxy is gone, the silver is easy to remove, rubbing with a wet cloth or thin steel sponge (the ones used to clean windows). In the end, the glass must be clear and scratch free (fig. below).

Note: You may be tempted at this point to use a thinner mirror and eliminate the transparent part altogether. Don´t do that. This would introduce a refraction error. The direct (horizon) light ray must pass thru the glass, as the light ray from the star does.
This can only be done if you use a front mirrored surface, such as a polished inox plate. However inox mirrors are easily scratched. Glass mirrors are better.


Mirror supports
I used Lego bricks to hold the mirrors. They have good dimensional precision and will guarantee a nearly correct 90° angle between the mirrors and CD parts. They will also allow the sextant to be assembled, disassembled, trimmed and parts to be replaced as needed.
Of course other materials can be used if Lego bricks are not available. Try to use dimensionally precise objects, to build the mirror supports with right angles.
Bonding the mirrors
CD Center mirror:

1) Working on a flat surface, bond the center mirror back to the large side of a 2x4 Lego brick. Make sure the mirror is perpendicular to the flat surface.

2) Assemble the 2x4 brick over two 2x1 Lego plates (gray ones). The space between the plates will be over the CD axis hole.
3) Bond the mirror assembly to the CD. A few things to watch here:
• Align the the large Lego side to the 180° scale line. This way, the mirror silvered surface (i.e. the back surface of the glass mirror) will be over the CD center.
• Take care to center the Lego plates well. They will be very close to the CD center hole. Don't let them interfere with it.
CD Box mirror (half silvered):


CD-Sextant Layout
> high definition 300 DPI image
I used a 2x2 Lego brick mounted on a 2x2 Lego plate, to hold the CD box mirror. Cut the 4 brick bumps out, because they will be visible thru the transparent part of the half silvered mirror.
1) Working on a flat surface, bond the half silvered mirror to the 2x2 Lego brick. Make sure the mirror is perpendicular to the flat surface.
2) Assemble the box mirror brick to the plate.
3) Position and bond the box mirror assembly in the CD box corner. Make sure that:
• The CD is positioned pointing more or less as shown in the layout to the left, so you will have space to place the Vernier in the other box corner afterwards.
• Place the half silvered mirror assembly parallel to the center mirror. Position it visually.
• Bond the assembly to the CD box.
Sticking the Vernier
At this point, your CD-Sextant is almost done. You must now stick the Vernier in 0° position:
1) Cut the vernier in a triangular form, to fit the CD box corner. I did stick the vernier on a blank sticker paper piece, in order to make the vernier paper ticker. This is important because the vernier edge will be unsupported.
1) Trim the mirrors (see trimming the mirrors below)
2) Turn the CD until the mirrors are parallel.
3) Hold the instrument in observation position, looking thru the half silvered mirror and focus on a far away object. Turn the CD slowly until the reflected image and the direct image coincide. This must be the instrument zero, so....
4) ...Carefully place and stick the vernier in the CD box, reading 0°00'. This means that the vernier tick A most coincide with the 0° scale line. On the other side of the vernier, the 60' tick must coincide with the 59° tick in the scale.
Make sure the vernier and CD scale are very close together. The vernier probably will be a little higher than the CD, and you might want to bend it down a bit.
Shades
Observing the Sun can be dangerous. The UV radiations can cause cataracts. Excessive visible light can burn the retina. Extreme care must be taken while observing the Sun, to protect your eye. This means your instrument must have a good Sun filter.
Tips:
• Make sure the shade is in place before observing the Sun.
• Avoid observing the Sun for more than a few seconds.
• Never stare the Sun directly.
• If you feel uncomfortable, stop the observation immediately.
• In this case, consider a stronger filter.
Materials that can be used to make the filter:
• Aluminized Mylar film - this is a material specifically developed for solar observation. Can be found in science suply stores. Probably the best material available.
• Welder's glass - strong filter, used to protect the welder eye. Difficult to cut, can be found in construction stores.
• Photography film. Use a dark negative with silver coating. This means black-and-white film. Color film does not contain silver and will not filter the UV rays (they are dark for visible light, but not for UV light).
• Dark floppy disk media.
For more on eye safety, read this page.

As shades for Sun and Moon sights, I used 35 mm dark negative film (there is one in the end of every film roll). The negatives were mounted in slide frames. I used two layers of dark film for the Sun frame and single for the Moon. Both slide frames are removable and are attached to the instrument frame using Lego pieces. I did trim the lower edge of the slide, to make it thinner. The slide window must match the imaginary "tube" formed by the mirror edges.

In the image to the left we have 3 different shade support designs.
The shade must be positioned between the two mirrors and the filter surface must be orthogonal to the line connecting both mirror centers. This is to avoid introducing a refraction error.
Try to position the slide center in the line connecting the two mirror centers. The Sun observation is made by looking thru the half silvered mirror, below the shade.

Trimming the mirrors
For simplicity, the CD-Sextant is not equipped with screws to trim the mirrors. But the mirrors can be trimmed by inserting small sticker paper pieces between the Lego brick and plates (or by sanding the brick) at suitable positions.
First check the angle of the CD mirror (center mirror). As you look to this mirror, the reflected CD edge must be perfectly aligned with the edge you see outside the mirror (green arrows in the image). This must hold for all directions.
The half silvered mirror can be trimmed by setting the instrument to 0°00', aiming to a far away object and making sure the direct and reflected images coincide.
After this initial trimming, the Lego bricks will hold the trimming surprisingly, even after disassembled. Of course you must read the index error after each set of observations, as with all sextants.

CD center mirror trim

Sun sight with the CD-Sextant Final touches
Bond a round 1x1 Lego piece to the CD surface, to use as a turning knob (the blue piece).
The CD may be hard to turn. In this case, rub the CD hole with a pencil. The graphite is a good lubricant, and will make turning the CD easier. This is important for fine adjustments.
I made 8 such sextants. I will be publishing test results here soon. Stay tuned.
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:WOW ( :o :? :!:

I think I'll just buy one - - - that way it MAY work :)

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Post by Duane Dunn, Allegro »

Of course a sextant is of no use for figuring out what state you are in unless it is a coastal one and you are on the beach. But then if you are there you probably already know what state you are in. You need a un-obstructed view of a sea horizon to use a sextant. Using the land horizon will not work. Or you need to get or make an artificial horizon. Got any liquid mercury handy? While I do have a plastic practice sextant just for fun and even live in a coastal state, I can't see any use for a sextant in coastal cruising. Even on Puget Sound it is rare to have clear water all the way to the horizon.
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