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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:06 pm
by Wind Chime
We use turnbuckle, shroad and spreader covers.
Easy to install and work great!

http://www.pridemarine.com/index.cfm?ca ... 07%7C10553

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:03 am
by Tony D-26X_SusieQ
That sock is made to fit the jib and the genoa both. I found that with the jib I was getting some chaffing on the sock due to it flapping in the wind. I solved the problem by attaching a 1/4" line to the jib sheet when raising the sock and after the sock was zipped up I would wrap the small line around the sock spirling from top to bottom and pull it tight. This stopped the flapping from the wind and ended the chaffing problem. :)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:09 am
by Moe
Tony D-26X_SusieQ wrote:I solved the problem by attaching a 1/4" line to the jib sheet when raising the sock and after the sock was zipped up I would wrap the small line around the sock spirling from top to bottom and pull it tight. This stopped the flapping from the wind and ended the chaffing problem. :)
That is what we do with the genoa sock Barb made. To hoist easily, it has to be larger than the furled genoa, so we take up the slack with a line like you mention. Wound in the opposite direction from the furling line, and tied to the bow rail, the two keep the furler from turning in either direction.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:25 am
by RickJ
My boat's PO left some notes, including the suggestion of wrapping a line around the jib sock to prevent flogging, so I've done this from the start (it hadn't occurred to me that twisting is also a problem!).

I use a line same thickness as the halyard, so it can also be attached to the mast-raising pole without needing to drop the sock in order to get to the halyard. I have a loop tied into it at the correct position for hooking to the pole. Helps simplify things. :)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:04 am
by Moe
For what it's worth, that same 1/4" line can be used as a messenger line, attached to the lower end of the furler halyard, to lower the sail off the furler.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:25 am
by TerryB89
Does insurance cover the mast if it falls like that and gets all killed up?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:24 pm
by EricM26
I didn't pursue the insurance after I de-masted. I'm always afraid to make a claim if I can afford to pay for it myself since I never want to give the insurance company an opportunity to jack up my premiums... Rigging tape is a good thing and that is one of the steps I took after my ringding popped off. I also tried to use common car key rings, but they quickly rusted, so now I have stainless steel and rigging tape on mine.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:36 pm
by Russ
EricM26 wrote:I didn't pursue the insurance after I de-masted. I'm always afraid to make a claim if I can afford to pay for it myself since I never want to give the insurance company an opportunity to jack up my premiums...
It's pretty sad that the insurance companies have trained us this way. We're terrified to actually make a claim.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:33 pm
by Boblee
Wind Chime
Looked at the spreader covers and boots on West Marine site but no way could you justify them at their prices although Pride marine is great ?

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:06 pm
by Wind Chime
Yup Boblee, totaly agree.

Some of the pricing at West Marine is not even close to competetive on some items.

They do not do local pricing either. Being a big chains they set one national price and leave it because it is easy, but that takes them out of the game on lots of items.

Example:
We bought an Iris handbearing compass this year from Steveston Marine (local 4 store shop with website) for $89, West Marine pirce was $149.

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:23 pm
by Boblee
Thats what I found here with their rigging wire almost half price what it is here but thimbles and swages double?, some of their blocks are half price but some are dearer there just doesn't seem to be any pattern.
We can get product from them quicker than local and only a bit dearer so by selectively buying it more than pays for freight although it's a pain to be making out two orders.
Moe and Tony your idea of wrapping a line around the jib sock could work with our chute scoop which is very loose on the spinnaker thanks.
Bob

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:53 am
by James V
Please include shipping and handling charges when posting. WM has free shipping over $ 100 if the wieght is below 25 pounds I think. WM does charge extra for cutting line and wire. Way to much!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:59 pm
by Boblee
WM is pretty dear for freight to oz but some of the lower prices more than make up for it.
Re the ring dings or cotter rings I don't have much worry with them on the shrouds as a bit of rigging tape and the hose keep them fairly secure but the one on the furler is a real PITA especially if you have cold hands or the deck is pitching when having to drop the mast for bridges etc, it is almost impossible to tape it securely too.
Toggle pins have been suggested but they are not fail safe in my opinion.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:57 am
by Tony D-26X_SusieQ
Moe wrote:For what it's worth, that same 1/4" line can be used as a messenger line, attached to the lower end of the furler halyard, to lower the sail off the furler.
I keep it attached to the halyard full time. It also comes in real handy when you drop the end of the halyard and watch it slide to the top of the mast. :evil: