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WHAT A TERRIBLE SHAME !

That's a sad waste of a "good old boat" ...... I really can't believe you did that ! That's like chopping up a 1963 Corvette to use parts on a 1978 Granada ! .... dang I hate that you did that....

( honestly... I know it was yours, and none of my business, but , gee whiz... )

Come on, man, a Venture 222 is a little better than being compared to a Ford Granada.

Catigale wrote:RIP, little boat..

Yes..that was a nice looking boat. Too bad it had so much damage.

Just how does one lift 900 lbs of lead?

I guess I haven't been clear on this. The Seafarer's keel was broken. Don't know how, when where or why but it was. I didn't break it and I don't know who did. In my opinion, if it could have been fixed and fixed correctly without thousands of dollars spent and hundreds of hours worked, I would have pursued it. I stated earlier that I would much rather have had the sailing characteristics of the SF22 but as it stands, I still have a very viable sailing craft in the Mac 22 with many high quality parts that will be transplanted if you will, from the dying craft.

The trailer and boat have both been on Craig's List for about a week with no takers. Since you think this was a waste of a good boat and you hate that I did this, you should have at least sent me a message that you were interested in rescuing the boat as it were. I would have gladly sold you the striped hull and and deck and even stored it until you could get it.

I did due diligence in researching and soliciting opinions on my options in this situation and the overwhelming majority were in support of just what I did. I fly airplanes for a living and it always kills me when I think of all the vintage WWII aircraft that were scrapped just for their materials. That indeed was a waste from a pilot's point of view. If an airplanes spar is cracked then your faced with the same type of scenario that I was faced with. Do I remove the wing, rivets, skin, ribs, wiring etc, and rebuild a completely new structure or do I salvage parts and scrap the rest. If she is a million dollar P51 Mustang the answer is yes but the SF22 was no P51. In my world of limited funds, time and skills, I did what I had to do. Sorry you didn't like it.

I bet if you did the same to a Mac.22, your truck could carry a lot more weight.
Dave
PS: I never did see the crack in keel, as I recall the Seafear22 had a internal lead ballest.

72Mac22 wrote:Before:




After:

I salvaged just about every last washer from the Seafarer, broke out the Sawzall and hauled the rest to the dump. The keel was in terrible shape and considering it weighs around 900 pounds, it was really just a matter of time and a little stress and it would have departed the hull. I tried to get some pics after cutting away the sole but they didn't show the damage very well.

Now its time to get about the business of the Mac 22 restore.

I bet that was kinda theraputic cuttin' it all up! Would like to have seen that!

72Mac22 wrote:I guess I haven't been clear on this. The Seafarer's keel was broken. Don't know how, when where or why but it was. I didn't break it and I don't know who did. In my opinion, if it could have been fixed and fixed correctly without thousands of dollars spent and hundreds of hours worked, I would have pursued it. I stated earlier that I would much rather have had the sailing characteristics of the SF22 but as it stands, I still have a very viable sailing craft in the Mac 22 with many high quality parts that will be transplanted if you will, from the dying craft.

The trailer and boat have both been on Craig's List for about a week with no takers. Since you think this was a waste of a good boat and you hate that I did this, you should have at least sent me a message that you were interested in rescuing the boat as it were. I would have gladly sold you the striped hull and and deck and even stored it until you could get it.

I did due diligence in researching and soliciting opinions on my options in this situation and the overwhelming majority were in support of just what I did. I fly airplanes for a living and it always kills me when I think of all the vintage WWII aircraft that were scrapped just for their materials. That indeed was a waste from a pilot's point of view. If an airplanes spar is cracked then your faced with the same type of scenario that I was faced with. Do I remove the wing, rivets, skin, ribs, wiring etc, and rebuild a completely new structure or do I salvage parts and scrap the rest. If she is a million dollar P51 Mustang the answer is yes but the SF22 was no P51. In my world of limited funds, time and skills, I did what I had to do. Sorry you didn't like it.

No poroblem man. I wasn't tryin to "get in your face" or anything, it just seemed like a waste, that's all. BTW if you will look back at the 5th post in this thread, you will see that I DID make you an offer and asked you to PM me. Sorry if I upset you with my remarks.

ChockFullOnuts22 wrote:Come on, man, a Venture 222 is a little better than being compared to a Ford Granada.

Admittedly, that was an exaggerated example, but I was making a point..... Yeah I like Macs, they are decent boats

JoeVacs wrote:

ChockFullOnuts22 wrote:Come on, man, a Venture 222 is a little better than being compared to a Ford Granada.

Admittedly, that was an exaggerated example, but I was making a point..... Yeah I like Macs, they are decent boats

Haha, I understood where you were coming from...just had to stick up for my own boat in good humor.

JoeVacs, No hard feelings at all. I did read your earlier post but I guess I didn't take it serious with you being so far from me and the fact that the boat had such serious problems. I have been watching your V17 rebuild with great interest and I admire what you have accomplished. I am also a bit sensitive about the whole situation with the SF22. I am a novice at this game and I tend to second guess myself. I am 99 percent sure I did the right thing but when someone raises a question I start to doubt myself. Sorry if my insecurities came out here.

Thanks for the concerns and the guidance. Sincerely.

PS. Hang in there and head down. Looks like you have a big blow headed your way. NC Gov has just issued a state of emergency do to Earl. Best wishes.

I'm 7 hours inland, so no danger here. We won't even get any rain from Earl, but Saturday is supposed to be 79 dgrees and a 10 to 15 mph breeze. I plan on being on the water

I'm jealous. It's supposed to be 68°F and rainy here in central NY (up by Oneida Lake, no where near NYC) on Saturday.

That's like chopping up a 1963 Corvette to use parts on a 1978 Granada ! .... dang I hate that you did that....

Uh oh, I shouldnt have done that??

I thought GM as out of business.....