How to rope start an E-TEC

[Catigale]

Link to pull starting Mercury 50 here

http://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/v ... rc#p226156

[raycarlson]

this is why for the last 4 years ive been preaching this on the forum,practice at home in your driveway where medical care is near. once you learn your particular motors needs its very easy,my nissan will start first pull 90%.and a longer rope is the secret.nothing worse than a steep learning curve when the wind is blowing you towards a rocky shore.

[robbarnes1965]

The Honda 50 will start hand cranking it. You have to take off the 4 bolts holding the crank chaft cover than you need 1/8 braded line to make the 4 turns around the crank shaft. Then other end should be fastened to a large item like a 1 inch wood dowel 4 inches long but you can use a small heavy screw driver to.
Trick is to make sure you pump the fuel line full,wrap the 4full line around crank shaft and pull it like your life depended on it. You don't give it full effort you will never start it. Takes usually 6-10 times before it fires up. Sometimes if engine is still warm it may start first time.
Dave

One day I will have to try the same on my Honda bf50. The one attempt was terrible. In hindsight though I wonder if I turned the ignition key on? Leverage with the pedestal and sides interfering with the pull movement was VERY challenging. Has anyone else done it on a Honda?

Rob

Dave, you live in Florida! You scare the crap out of me when you say it takes 6-10 times and it's not even cold outside...

[Kittiwake]

... nothing worse than a steep learning curve when the wind is blowing you towards a rocky shore.

I say to remind myself & all: that's why an anchor is required safety equipment - we mustn't forget to use it.
Kittiwake

[pokerrick1]

Bertrand;

Is that a mic for a karaoke machine

Rick

[DaveB]

Bring a small motorcycle battery if all fails.
Dave

Yep, did it with my Honda, and yes I had bruised arms from hitting everything in the cockpit when pulling the stock starter rope. Took 12 tries or so before I got it going, but it does work! I bolted the casing back on before leaving so I didn't loose the bolts. The next day I realized that the cables had not been properly tightened on my 2 new recently installed batteries 2 months earlier. I'm a lucky man.

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[Chinook]

The 50 hp Nissan TLDI on Chinook is similar to the ETEC, in that it is an oil injected/fuel injected 2 stroke. I've never seen a video on rope starting it, but I have had to perform this task when out on a cruise, when power from the battery was too low to start with the key. I removed the cowling and fly wheel cover, exposing the pulley with notch for the starting rope. Compression was too great to allow simply turning the key on and pulling the rope. I had to enlist the aid of Sandy, who knelt down behind me and, when I gave the word, turned the key to ignition. At the same moment I jerked the starting rope. The little bit of residual battery power, plus my pull, was enough to start the engine. The trick in this maneuver was twofold: first of all, avoid hitting Sandy in the jaw with my follow through while pulling the rope; and second, avoid letting either the rope tail or a loose garment get caught in the gear cogs which are exposed in the top of the motor. If I hadn't had a little bit of power remaining from the battery, I don't think I could have pull started the engine.

[DaveB]

On the Honda 50 with 3 cylinders, I would think removeing one of the sparkplugs will reduce compression and easier to pull the rope and once the engine fired up put the spark plug in. That was my next move if the engine didn't fire up. I never tried it but I know the Honda 50 will run on two cylinders.
This is a last resort if all else fails and I would unscrew the spark plug until there is only 2 treads holding it in place and if that does not start it than take the spark plug out. Have a towel to cover the surounding area.
Do on your own risk !
Dave

The 50 hp Nissan TLDI on Chinook is similar to the ETEC, in that it is an oil injected/fuel injected 2 stroke. I've never seen a video on rope starting it, but I have had to perform this task when out on a cruise, when power from the battery was too low to start with the key. I removed the cowling and fly wheel cover, exposing the pulley with notch for the starting rope. Compression was too great to allow simply turning the key on and pulling the rope. I had to enlist the aid of Sandy, who knelt down behind me and, when I gave the word, turned the key to ignition. At the same moment I jerked the starting rope. The little bit of residual battery power, plus my pull, was enough to start the engine. The trick in this maneuver was twofold: first of all, avoid hitting Sandy in the jaw with my follow through while pulling the rope; and second, avoid letting either the rope tail or a loose garment get caught in the gear cogs which are exposed in the top of the motor. If I hadn't had a little bit of power remaining from the battery, I don't think I could have pull started the engine.

[Catigale]

Can you put a plug back in a running engine??

Don't think I've ever tried it, although I removed one from a running engine once, and won't try that again.





Good question to ponder this morning.

[DaveB]

I don't know in the Honda 50 , thats why I mentioned to unscrew the plug almost to the end so air will leak around the treads therefor reduced compression. I have done it on small 2 cylinder.
You have to disconnect the wire than put wire back on with a rubber handle pliers once plug is in and running.
I have done this a few times on small 2 cylinder motors to clean out the Cylinder chamber.
The compression is greatly reduced. I have taken out a sparkplug while engine is running for a very short time.
On my Honda 50 I have run the engine on 2 cylinders with all spark plug in,you hardly notice it until you give it throttle.
Dave

Can you put a plug back in a running engine??

Don't think I've ever tried it, although I removed one from a running engine once, and won't try that again.





Good question to ponder this morning.

[raycarlson]

Certainly if you are unable to physically pull your motor over due to a handicap or injury you should keep your battery in tip top shape. i've always reccomended to rope start your motor for the experience of it assuming one is of average physical condition.My tldi 50 nissan is not much harder to pull then my 10hp totegoat minibike,now my old bassboat with a 150 yamaha v-6 was definately a challange but doable.

[mastreb]

worst case: Dinghy, oars, tow line, and misery.

[Boblee]

I hate pull starts on anything but have started the etec and can't remember any dramas just pulled it and it started and had to start the 50 hp Merc or Mariner last year and it did take a couple of pulls but no problems suppose it depends on why you have to use the rope or why the battery went flat?