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Rolf
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Post by Rolf »

Good luck, Rich. The luxury and safety of a larger bluewater boat is a logical progression for someone with a growing young family. I still would like to see a larger, luxurious in-the- water 35 foot version of my x-- 5000 pounds of water ballast and a 250 horse to keep that cabin cruiser option!
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Mark Karagianis
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Post by Mark Karagianis »

Hey Rich - just transfer the warp drive to your new boat. We'll beam over to shower in your new SHIP anchored off one of the Channel Islands.

I thought the post about the Macs pulling your new boat in the Christmas parade was great!

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Scott
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Post by Scott »

I dont fault rich at all. My wife said I can have one of these in 2 or 3 years. Much as I love my Mac, my kids are groing away and only like to do day sails anymore. This has plenty of room below for 2 and is borderline trailerable.

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Post by richandlori »

Offer to Purchase faxed over this Morning after a 700mile round trip drive up the Ca coast! All I can do now is wait.....tick....tick....tick




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I'm going CRAZY! The offer paperwork was like buying a damn house...this clause...that clause...
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mike
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Post by mike »

Rich,

Congratulations on moving up to a bigger boat! And yes, the "waiting to hear if your offer was accepted" part is agonizing.

--Mike
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They Theirs
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Post by They Theirs »

Scott

I was touring Alamitos Bay when one of those huge folding Tris came in from racing offshore. That looks like the 36 and it was a great looking boat. They were passing everyone coming in on main alone. You lucky guy! I would like to get one of those $225,000 boats, but it would be as a gift, I could not afford it.

Rich

Arent you going to be the sight, climbing on the water taxi with the briefcase in one hand and the Porta-Potty in the other?
How far is it to the nearest clean out? Sounds like you will be living at Pops House, and using the boat from the Taxi ride.
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Post by NautiMoments »

Scott

I met a couple last year who have had a 28' Racing version with a cutter rigging for several years and race in the PNW and Califonia. He tells me that the boat will normally do 1.5 times the wind speed on some points of sail. They usually sail at 13 - 20 knots but have had it as high as 26 knots. Been on one pontoon a few time, not my thing. Not much room inside but it's a rocket.
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Post by Scott »

The photo I posted is a Farrier 31, The boat I want is a factory built Corsair 31, basically same boat. You can find them on line for less than 100k used. The interior is less spacious than a mac but the sailing speeds are near what a Mac with a big iron genny at WOT would be.


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NOTABLE MILESTONES

* 1992 CORSAIR 31 voted Australian Boat of the Year.
* 1992 CORSAIR 31 Ostac-Triumph wins Australian Multihull Offshore Championship series, including one run of 24 hours and 29 minutes in the 308 nautical mile Brisbane to Gladstone ocean race.
* 1996 Sale Gosse becomes first CORSAIR 31 to cross Atlantic, then goes on to take first in class during Heineken Cup regatta at Saint Maartens.
* 1996 CORSAIR 31 Hanoman is first to finish on elapsed time and sets new course record in 100 mile Cape Flattery race during Swiftsure International Yacht Race.
* 1996 CORSAIR 31 Bad Boy completes first Pacific crossing winning first in class during Single-handed Transpac.
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They Theirs wrote:
Rich

Arent you going to be the sight, climbing on the water taxi with the briefcase in one hand and the Porta-Potty in the other?
How far is it to the nearest clean out? Sounds like you will be living at Pops House, and using the boat from the Taxi ride.
There is a pump out facility, diesel fuel, hoist crane, DIY boat yard (which I will be using), and all the things I will need to get this baby ready for Adventure time! I will BE GLAD to end my Porta-Potty days...that's for sure! Have you been talking to my dad? That's what he says too....but he actually knows me better than that....I could stay over there anytime without having to do the following, which I will list here to illustrate how cost affective the Mac really is! If you see something Im missing.I hesitate to say itbut let me know.


Offer $38.5K for a boat (may have to go up a few $K.hope not)

Pay the state if Ca $2800 in sales tax (those snakes)

About $800 for a delivery Captain to assist Lori and I bring the boat down from SF Bay to Avila Bay, about 200miles (we may or may not need to do thisit depends, but Ill leave it injust in case.)

$438 for a Marine Survey

$200 for a Haul out (for marine survey)

$2500 for a New Mooring in Avila Bay (one time $, then $360/yr)

About 2 months of slip fees in Sausalito, Ca. $775, while we get ready to head south

Boat insurance ($530/yr)paid at signing of policy

Engine service prior to leaving for New Home (maybe $300...hopefully no Must repair NOW items are found)

Steering system service prior to leaving for new home (no idea yetmaybe $300)

I'm budgeting $1000 on Misc things that I will all of a sudden need to get the boat ready to be sailed down from SF Bay to Avila Bay~about 200 miles


So I am looking at.wellIm afraid if I post itLori will see it and there will be trouble!
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Post by They Theirs »

Keep the biggest surprises until the time is right.
Get some Tapered Plugs just in case you need to shut something off.
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jackie m
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Post by jackie m »

Scott wrote:The photo I posted is a Farrier 31, The boat I want is a factory built Corsair 31
I have an entire file folder dedicated to the Corsair 31 :-) And the Telstar26. Have you seen this review of the Corsair 31?

http://www.southwindssailing.com/articl ... /F31.shtml

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They Theirs
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Post by They Theirs »

Jackie m

Thanks for the post. I did not realize the Corsair had so many marginal points. I guess I have always been smitten by their ability to perform on the wind. One thing sure, If the price is up where I believe, Ill be strapping on a couple of MaddMike's Amas to flatten my ride and smile with my view over the Mac cabin.
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Dimitri-2000X-Tampa
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Post by Dimitri-2000X-Tampa »

About $800 for a delivery Captain to assist Lori and I bring the boat down from SF Bay to Avila Bay, about 200miles (we may or may not need to do thisit depends, but Ill leave it injust in case.)


No way dude. You are a Mac sailor...you don't need no stinkin captain!

Honestly, I doubt your new boat is harder to sail than your Mac...it will just cause a lot more damage if it hits something. You will get used to the higher inertia pretty quick I think...and you will like it, will track straight as an arrow compared to your Mac. Although my old keelboat was quite a bit smaller (about 5500# if I recall) than what you are getting, I found that sailing a Mac was more challenging. With the bigger boat, you will need to be much more diligent about water depths. I got grounded a couple times on my keelboat...but then, this is Florida too.
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Captain Steve
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Post by Captain Steve »

thats true...you would need a captain to make it around point conception. The weather sometimes hold people waiting for days to make it around the horn..
zuma hans 1
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Hire the pilot

Post by zuma hans 1 »

Rich,

We'll miss you in Oxnard.

But perhaps you should post your quandry about whether to hire a delivery pilot over at Lecttic Latitudes ... the website for Latitude 38, the SF bay sailors monthly.

I have a hunch they will tell you that you would be insane to take a brand new (to you) boat out the Golden Gate at all ... much less on a maiden trip to Avila Bay.

The sailing procedures out the Gate alone are formidable. The waters along the shore between the Gate and Half Moon Bay are treacherous, and devour yachts regularly. This extends a dozens miles out!

Remember the learning curve on your Mac? Wanna duplicate that in blue water? Yoinks, not me!

I'm sure you will be better off with a competent delivery pilot!

Good luck and please keep us posted.

Hans
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