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Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:07 pm
by bscott
seahouse wrote:So Bob, if all manufacturers happen to be using this method, I would suspect that a truly “seamless” tank might not really exist on the market.
Does peaches smoke?

My BRP OEM tank is seamless but pricey. I have 6 months to go before I need a new tank.
Bob
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:20 pm
by kmclemore
bscott wrote:So who is peaches and what am I missing
Bob
Peaches.
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:58 pm
by bscott
kmclemore wrote:bscott wrote:So who is peaches and what am I missing
Bob
Peaches.
Thanks for sharing

I sure wish my V berth extension mod was as luxurios as "Restless"--perfect color choice too
Bob
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:06 pm
by K9Kampers
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:29 pm
by seahouse
Hi Bob --
My BRP OEM tank is seamless but pricey. I have 6 months to go before I need a new tank.
Just made the trip to the garage to check my brand-new-unused-still-in-the-box BRP OEM 6 gallon poly gas tank. Got 2X12 gallon tanks when I bought the boat, but had to buy this uneeded 6 gallon tank with the motor.
It's called an Evinrude/Johnson "Dura-tank", has the Scepter name on the bottom, but has the Sturtevant WI mould and date ID. Price on the box is $79.95. It has a seam at the ends, which is continuous with the parting line in between.
So maybe the USA version uses a different manufacturing method than the one we get in Canada(?)
You have 6 months to go - meaning you don't need to get one until the next boating season?
- Brian.
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:05 am
by bscott
Thanks Brian,
After reading your reply I went to the garage and inspected my tanks again. To my surprise the BRP tank supplied with my E-tec is a TEMPO with
faintly visible seams on the ends. I believe you're correct--seamless tanks probably don't exist
It is possible that elevation changes from 5,300' to 10,100' to 8,100' and back again with gas in the tank plus the real strong UV and high altitude sun over a 5 year period is probably too much to ask of any two piece tank--my apologies to Mr. Moeller

But my 3 yr old TEMPO looks to be more robust and hopefully will last for a few more years.
I still need to replace it so the search continues--boat's on the trailer for the winter--blew out the lawn sprinklers yesterday, sunny and 52* today, 11" snow forecasted for tonight, 4-7" tomorrow, sunny and mid 50's for the grandkids football game on Saturday
Bob
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:06 pm
by vizwhiz
bscott wrote:11" snow forecasted for tonight
What's "snow"??

Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:01 am
by bscott
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:03 am
by Hardcrab
Snow is "Yankee Dandruff", or so I've been told.

Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 2:05 pm
by Catigale
Maybe we have dandruff, but our air isnt orange.....

Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:31 pm
by b i l l
Can anyone recomend a paint, spray or brush on, to put on these gas tanks that have been discolored by the sun? The towel over the exposed section of tank is a great idea but I have waited too long . I have seen comercials on spray paint to restore plastic lawn chairs,wondering if anyone has tried it on fuel tanks? Thanks
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:33 pm
by DaveB
Get the cover that snaps in place over the opening. Think Blue Waters and another Manifacture is metioned here. Do a search. Don't spray anything on the tanks!
Dave
b i l l wrote:Can anyone recomend a paint, spray or brush on, to put on these gas tanks that have been discolored by the sun? The towel over the exposed section of tank is a great idea but I have waited too long . I have seen comercials on spray paint to restore plastic lawn chairs,wondering if anyone has tried it on fuel tanks? Thanks
Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:48 pm
by seahouse
Probably not good to paint a plastic tank because, like painting a ladder, it can hide potential imperfections and failure points, (a gut feeling). And not a colour other than red (or yellow for diesel fuel), I would guess again. I like that idea, though, because it will protect the plastic (of a fairly new tank, say) from UV damage, where other ways are not practical. But any scratches would create a vulnerable "achilles heel" that might go unnoticed. Of course, painting a tank would prevent you from determining, by visual inspection, the amount of fuel in the tank.
I would also point out that, while this may or may not be the case here, some polymers can fade considerably from sun exposure, and not lose much strength from it. Ends up being solely cosmetic, as only the dye added to the plastic has faded, not the structure of the parent resin itself. Test the tank with a blunt pointy object (like a dull marlinspike) in the faded area to find out for sure. Push slowly.
It's a very demanding task for a paint to stay stuck to a surface that is constantly expanding and contracting from temperature and internal pressure, unless the paint does so at the same rate. The only paint I've had any luck with over plastic is a product called Krylon (spray can), which might be available in the USA(?) Clean the surface well to improve your odds of success. I've seen the paints you mention that are made for painting over resin lawn furniture, and they might work well, but I have no personal experience with any other than Krylon. Anyone else?
-Brian.

Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:15 pm
by K9Kampers
Catigale wrote:Maybe we have dandruff, but our
hair isnt orange.....

Mine is (was), on Halloween...

Re: Beware Moeller gas tanks
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:55 pm
by seahouse