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Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:13 pm
by bscott
A "rope" in the hardware store becomes a "line" as soon as it comes aboard your boat :P

Bob

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:16 pm
by Divecoz
and if there is a picture of a boat on the package it cost TWICE as Much.. Picture on package bought at West Marine It Cost THREE Times as much as the same "rope" at Menards :x
bscott wrote:A "rope" in the hardware store becomes a "line" as soon as it comes aboard your boat :P

Bob

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:28 pm
by DaveB
Fathoms go back to 4th century BC. The Greek historian (Herodotus) used these words ( When one gets to 11 Fathoms and ooze on the lead, he is one day's journey from Alexandria) This is on the Nile'.I am sure you all wanted to know this. :wink:
I forgot when the charts change from Fathoms to feet, maybe around 5 Fathoms.
Guess I need to refresh my elder mind.
Length of one League? :?
Dave
vizwhiz wrote:This is a great thread...too much fun!

These conversations also make me think about so many confusing things and when it is "right" to use sailor-talk... :wink:

For example: The water depth may be in fathoms, but the length of anchor rode needed to reach the bottom is in feet!
The water depth may be in fathoms, but the length of my boat is in feet!
The water depth may be in fathoms, but the height to the bottom of the bridge, which my boat's mast has to clear, is in feet! :P

I have long skinny flexible things on my boat that hold things together...they're called lines, but they're made out of rope. But when I am looking at a chart and working out my coordinates, I don't draw a rope on the chart, I draw a line. So when I'm standing on deck holding a...line...rope...thingy... :?

My boat speed may be measured in knots, but when someone asks how far away I am and when I'll get there, I tell them I'm 5 miles south of the marina...but is that nautical miles or imperial miles I'm talking about? :|

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:31 pm
by Wind Chime
Did anyone notice the banner add for Boomkicker at the top of this page?
(if you don't see the add just refresh you screen until it appears)

I reads: "Add more KNOTS to your sailing speed"

Again ... I'm not saying ... I'm just saying. :wink: :)

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:23 pm
by ROAD Soldier
Wind Chime wrote:Did anyone notice the banner add for Boomkicker at the top of this page?
(if you don't see the add just refresh you screen until it appears)

I reads: "Add more KNOTS to your sailing speed"

Again ... I'm not saying ... I'm just saying. :wink: :)
Must be another one of those Canadian things like KPH :P

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:31 pm
by ROAD Soldier
Ok enough of this stuff time to learn about things that are important, like learning how to learn about surviving the coming Zombie Apocalypse.

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:51 pm
by Gater Dunn
Divecoz wrote:WindChime.. Have you got a Speedo that reflects speed in Knots? Humm I didn't think so.. Marine Forecast ... are as I have heard them broadcast , are often expressed in MPH and knots. We can all GUESS.. though poorly no doubt, how fast something may be moving at MPH or KPH..
I'll put money on the table NONE can do that well, in Knots.. Well Unless You Never Drive Car with a Speedo in MPH /KPH..
The Measurement of Knots has its purpose but NOT to Any Pleasure Craft Operator.... NOT IMHO :)
Its times like this I wish the back room was open :D
Divecoz question is such a loaded question

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:08 pm
by Wind Chime
Gater Dunn,
Ya, I thought about making a comment to Divecoz's reference to my "Speedo in knots", but I couldn't think of anything to say that wasn't inappropriate :o
by Gater Dunn ยป Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:51 pm

Divecoz wrote:
WindChime.. Have you got a Speedo that reflects speed in Knots? Humm I didn't think so.. Marine Forecast ... are as I have heard them broadcast , are often expressed in MPH and knots. We can all GUESS.. though poorly no doubt, how fast something may be moving at MPH or KPH..
I'll put money on the table NONE can do that well, in Knots.. Well Unless You Never Drive Car with a Speedo in MPH /KPH..
The Measurement of Knots has its purpose but NOT to Any Pleasure Craft Operator.... NOT IMHO

Gater Dunn wrote:
Its times like this I wish the back room was open :D
Divecoz question is such a loaded question

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:18 am
by SKIPPER2C
Hi all.
English is new to me. SO If i know all these terminology (thanx for dictionaries), will it help me to get my :macm: to sail faster :?:
OR must i change the blue hull to white :?:
Renier :wink:

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:24 am
by Catigale
Excellent point Renier...and you are correct on the hull color of course.... :D

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:40 am
by Catigale
A "rope" in the hardware store becomes a "line" as soon as it comes aboard your boat
FrankC had a great challenge some time back...name all the pieces of line on a boat that are still called rope...I think there were four in the challenge ..

I'll grab the easy one..

1. Bolt rope on the sail

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:36 am
by SKIPPER2C

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:04 am
by bscott
Catigale wrote:
A "rope" in the hardware store becomes a "line" as soon as it comes aboard your boat
FrankC had a great challenge some time back...name all the pieces of line on a boat that are still called rope...I think there were four in the challenge ..

I'll grab the easy one..

1. Bolt rope on the sail
2. Starter "rope" on the outboard

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:00 am
by kmclemore
bscott wrote:
Catigale wrote:
bscott wrote:A "rope" in the hardware store becomes a "line" as soon as it comes aboard your boat
FrankC had a great challenge some time back...name all the pieces of line on a boat that are still called rope...I think there were four in the challenge ..

I'll grab the easy one..

1. Bolt rope on the sail
2. Starter "rope" on the outboard
Surprisingly, there are actually a lot of ropes that are used on boats:

1. Bolt Rope - along the edge of a sail
2. Starter rope - for the outboard (good job - that's a new one!)
3. Foot rope - the line that hangs under the spars on vintage ships, used for walking upon
4. Buoy rope - to haul or anchor a buoy
5. Yard Rope - for hauling yard arms
6. Wheel ropes - for transferring motion of the wheel to the rudder -- replaced by cables in modern boats
7. Man rope - the rope used as a handrail along a gangplank
8. Mast rope - for hauling up the top mast
9. Bell rope - used for ringing the ship's bell
10. Tiller rope - similar function to the wheel rope, it is used to steady the tiller.

Of course, only #'s 1, 2, 4, 7, 9 and 10 are used on modern boats, so there's really only 6 in current use, that I can think of. Any more to add to the list?

Now the real question.... what 2 nautical items are made of rope but are not called either a rope, a sheet or a line?

Re: NOT using KNOTS (pet peeve)

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:26 am
by K9Kampers
Now the real question.... what 2 nautical items are made of rope but are not called either a rope, a sheet or a line?
Net, as in food net... used in the galley to keep the bacon from mixing with the peaches! :wink: