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RobertB wrote:The Kenyon stoves as I understand are the same as the ones available at the Asian grocery stores - just twice as expensive. If so, what wiring to the stove was melted - these are stand alone?

That's what I was wondering. Mine (don't remember the brand) has no wiring other than the piezoelectric starter. Maybe he was referring to other wiring in the boat.

RobertB wrote:The Kenyon stoves as I understand are the same as the ones available at the Asian grocery stores - just twice as expensive. If so, what wiring to the stove was melted - these are stand alone?

That's what I was wondering. Mine (don't remember the brand) has no wiring other than the piezoelectric starter. Maybe he was referring to other wiring in the boat.

I use the Kenyon butane single burner, yes the gas is heavier than air as is propane but never had a problem with leakage and if I did the small container would never cause a explosion unless you deliberate put a torch to it.
Fact is Butane or Propane gives off a much higher btu than alcohol and cooks much faster. It is also safer than Alcohol even with the no flair up types.
CNG is lighter than air , but were to find it?
On my 35ft Sailboat cruising for 3 years thru Eastern US, Caribbean and S. America I used odorless Kerosene with Alcohol primer that gives almost btu's as gas.
Dave

RussMT wrote:

RobertB wrote:The Kenyon stoves as I understand are the same as the ones available at the Asian grocery stores - just twice as expensive. If so, what wiring to the stove was melted - these are stand alone?

That's what I was wondering. Mine (don't remember the brand) has no wiring other than the piezoelectric starter. Maybe he was referring to other wiring in the boat.

I have one of these and was planning on using it. Most likely (as with our pop-up camper), I would do most cooking topside anyway but I'm still thinking this is the way to go.

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npsrangerchuck wrote:I have one of these and was planning on using it. Most likely (as with our pop-up camper), I would do most cooking topside anyway but I'm still thinking this is the way to go.

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We have two of these single burner butane stoves as well, our two burner propane Coleman unit is attached to the galley so these portable units work great for cooking crab on the dock or taking to shore at a potluck.

Anybody have luck with a butane stove and a thermal cooker? The admiral surprised me with a thermal cooker (http://store.saratogajacks.com/deluxe-s ... small-pot/) this weekend as I was putting the boat to sleep for the winter.

The admiral walks up with a grin and asked if I would like to do pulled pork sandwiches on our first outing in the spring. Of course the answer was yes, followed by my question of how to cook it. She pulled this out from around the corner with a "ta da!" We will be testing it out over the winter to see how we like it. She will be getting the omnia pan for Christmas.

BOATUS just published all the stats on the causes of fire on boats in the latest mag.

For doing roasts, chicken or any meat for that matter try a small pressure cooker on the stove top. They'll run you about $30. When done cooking to desired tenderness, glaze then roll it around on the BBQ. This would be ideal for your pulled pork and in less time.

yukonbob wrote:For doing roasts, chicken or any meat for that matter try a small pressure cooker on the stove top. They'll run you about $30. When done cooking to desired tenderness, glaze then roll it around on the BBQ. This would be ideal for your pulled pork and in less time.

And you can drag the pressure cooker without the top onto the beach and put it on the fire for the shrimp boil too.

now that is thinking. I live in Utah and my lake was the dumping grounds for a steel mill, so I would hate to eat anything that came out of it, especially it is mostly carp.

This whole topic is very interesting to me. When I bought my boat, it came with a Force 10 propane stove with an aluminum worthington tank mounted on the transom. If I was pulling it out every time I used it, I'd be fine with propane, but I'm very uneasy leaving it in a slip with a bunch of bilge space under the water line where propane has nowhere to go.

Now, I've only had the boat for a few months and haven't spent a night out on it yet... I don't want to regret pulling it out, but my train of thought is to pull the stove, leave the tank and get a magma grill. For the smaller stuff, a jet boil stove with smaller cylinders will make morning coffee and for meals I think I can manage with the grill. Note that I have no immediate plans for anything other than the occasional extended weekend trip... Worst case is that I put a bigger countertop in with more prep space and then have to cut a hole in it later to reinstall the stove.

Over here in so cal most of the sailing is port to port and most of the ports are pretty developed so the boat stove often gets relegated as nothing more than a coffee maker. When we sailed in undeveloped places like Baja we did a lot of cooking on shore in the fire. At Catalina most meals are at the restaurant except breakfast, and that usually is rolls and fruit and coffee. I know a lot of people are part of the bacon and eggs crowd and do it up right for breakfast every morning when camping but after 45 years of doing this stuff I have just never picked up that habit - I always have the 'hitch itch' as soon as I wake up in the camper (and the boat) - all I can think about is getting on the road to the next place of adventure.

I can tell you that when I camped with my mom and dad as a kid they did do it up right most mornings and dinner too. If I were going to set up 'boat' for cooking the way I think it should be done I would probably put the entire sliding galley on a gimbals and put in an oven. It would not be very hard at all to do it and I just might gimbals the galley just for the heck of it because it would be easy, but the oven is another thing. Having an oven is the greatest thing if you really want to eat like a king when out on adventure.

There is nothing like fresh cooked bread on a sailboat out in the ocean - the steam all coming off of it and the smell in the galley - man! I remember those days on bigger boats and that bread made the whole ocean feel warmer on a cold day.

I don't cook at all but my wife would if I put in an oven, so I guess i will design a gimbal for the galley and do it. I gust need to figure out what oven to use. I will probably replace a lot of the galley with stainless too.

Oh, and the reference the discussion about induction. If there was a way to make this work on the 26X, I'd be all over it. In our last house we bought a stove that had half induction and half radiant heat. The difference was astounding, and now that we're living in a house with only radiant electric, I really miss the induction. For brewing beer (my pre-MacGregor hobby, now secondary) it was perfect, and I almost prefer it to gas.

I am going to install this oven in 'boat' on a gimbal :



I think this will work good. It all works on alcohol, the stove and the oven both.