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Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:13 pm
by NiceAft
Totally different city today.
I was born and raised in the city; it is a real cosmopolitan metropolis today.
The U.N. made
Philly a World Heritage City, along with other famous cities in the world such as Paris, Jerusalem, Hue, and Gjirokastër

.. It is the only world Heritage City in the U.S.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:02 pm
by BOAT
But do you go sailing in Lake Ontario?
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:23 pm
by NiceAft
BOAT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:02 pm
But do you go sailing in Lake Ontario?
You need to be a bit more forthcoming with your thought process

. Lake Ontario is 300 miles north of here. A bit too far for a sail.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:34 pm
by rushguy44
My intro post has more info and pics, I just bought my first sailboat. I'm going to sail lake ontario once I've got her registered and a few necessary items completed, will work on her through winter.
I'm about 45 min from lake ontario and if anyone wants to come sailing with me here, (or Lake Winnipesaukee NH) I'm game.
It's relatively simple, you sail to NYC, up the Hudson, (lower your mast for the locks and bridges), motor to albany, make a left to lake lake oneida, and sail across her, to Rochester NY, and boom... you're on lake ontario. Might want to get a headstart on this trip as it's not uncommon to see -20 to -40 around my house (a bit warmer on the lake, but only by 10 to 15 degrees)
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:40 pm
by NiceAft
So BOAT was responding to your post of about 1PM; not mine of about 3.15PM. Now I understand

Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:51 pm
by Tomfoolery
rushguy44 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:34 pmIt's relatively simple, you sail to NYC, up the Hudson, (lower your mast for the locks and bridges), motor to albany, make a left to lake lake oneida, and sail across her,
to Rochester NY, and boom... you're on lake ontario.
Make sure you've got your big cable cutters (or a torch) to get through the catch nets at the Broad Street Bridge in Rochester, or you won't get over the falls in the Genesee River.
Or make a right at the Oswego Canal, shortly after Oneida Lake, to get to Lake Ontario without having to go over a series of waterfalls.

Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:55 pm
by NiceAft
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:34 pm
by BOAT
No, I thought Tom lived in Rochester - I just assumed he had one of those huge wooden houses on Lake Road and sailed his boat on the Ontario Lake??
If your in Downtown Rochester how do you sail past that waterfall???
I would be afraid of the waterfall.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:13 pm
by Tomfoolery
BOAT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:34 pm
No, I thought Tom lived in Rochester - I just assumed he had one of those huge wooden houses on Lake Road and sailed his boat on the Ontario Lake??
If your in Downtown Rochester how do you sail past that waterfall???
I would be afraid of the waterfall.
I'm just outside Rochester. And you sail past the falls at 60 mph with the boat on a trailer.
You can't get to Lake Ontario from the Genesee River, which is what the Erie Canal crosses just to the south. It used to cross the river at the falls - the Broad Street bridge started life as an aqueduct that carried the Erie Canal right through the middle of Rochester.

Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:17 pm
by BOAT
Tomfoolery wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:13 pm
You can't get to Lake Ontario from the Genesee River, which is what the Erie Canal crosses just to the south. It used to cross the river at the falls - the Broad Street bridge started life as an aqueduct that carried the Erie Canal right through the middle of Rochester.
Wow, that's cool! We don't have anything like that in Southern California.

At the time that picture was taken probably the only thing that was here where I am was an old Spanish Mission.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:42 pm
by Tomfoolery
That view you posted was taken on Court St, which is at the left (south) in the photo below, and looking upstream (to the left). Lotta bridges, and three (I think) waterfalls.
Look hard in that other picture and you can see a building that's still there, and some big ol' canal boat in the middle of the aqueduct.
The turn in the canal was to wrap around the big library building at the corner, to the south-east (bottom-left), onto South Ave.
Another view from where the water used to be, before they moved the canal, drained the water, installed subway tracks, then ripped out the subway tracks and installed homeless people and graffiti artists.

Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:45 pm
by Tomfoolery
BOAT wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:34 pm
No, I thought Tom lived in Rochester - I just assumed he had one of those huge wooden houses on Lake Road and sailed his boat on the Ontario Lake??
If your in Downtown Rochester how do you sail past that waterfall???
I would be afraid of the waterfall.
You can dock on the other side of that arch bridge (I-490), on the right/west. Corn Hill Landing. Just don't lose engine power, as the river runs toward the falls, of course. That's why there are catch nets or cables, a la The Sand Pebbles.

University of Rochester is on the other side of the river. It's a nice ride.
Oh, wait - what does this have to do with flares? My bad.

Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:51 pm
by BOAT
There is a rope on the front of that boat - is it being pulled by something? How deep is that canal?
Are you required to have flares to ride that canal? I wish we had canals like that over here.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:00 pm
by Tomfoolery
That's a good question about flares - I don't actually know. Never seen USCG on it, nor county police. But if you lose power, you can drift into the shore somewhere, tie up, and just get off. So no real need, I wouldn't think. Except that it gets real dark with no moon and no lights to reflect off the water.
Minimum depth is supposed to be 12 ft, but there are exceptions. Bridge and lock clearance is 13 ft or more I think, except for lift bridges of course. That's a tow path on the left, as they were towed by draft animals 200 years ago. Don't know what that boat is doing with a rope, but I suspect it's a barge, and is being towed with a helmsman to steer it, maybe tied to the one behind it, too.
Re: Electronic Flares Anyone?
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:56 pm
by Jimmyt
Tomfoolery wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:45 pm
Oh, wait - what does this have to do with flares? My bad.
My favorite part of most threads is when the topic goes completely off the rails! Keep up the good work.
