Venture 222 running rigging help

[Be Free]

I think I remember you not being able to pull the main high enough to get all the wrinkles out of it. It looks like your main halyard is attached to the shackle with a bowline. Switching to a halyard hitch may be the missing ingredient.

https://www.animatedknots.com/halyard-hitch-knot

[GonePostal]

Agh... This is a good news/bad news type deal. Im pretty sure Ive got MOST of it squared away without everyones help. Thanks!

It seems like the jib sheet/halyard is good to go tho I havent actually raised it yet.

Ive also got the mainsail halyard (look at me and my use of the proper lingo!) hooked up and going up & down. But... the &%@# mainsheet...

Im attaching even more pocs in the hopes yall can point me in the right direction.

First, Im not sure WHAT I should be attaching to the end of the boom

[GonePostal]

And the "backstay"...???? Should this somewhere else??? I cant tell where. Also... I have absolutely NO other rigging lines cables nothing

[GonePostal]

Partways down the boom there is a clip thingy
it roughly lines up with a half moon sorta bolt... I cant tell what or even if these should connect...

[GonePostal]

And fwiw my stern chainplate is not 100% centered... The wadp spray can is in the middle.

[Jimmyt]

Agh... This is a good news/bad news type deal. Im pretty sure Ive got MOST of it squared away without everyones help. Thanks!

It seems like the jib sheet/halyard is good to go tho I havent actually raised it yet.

Ive also got the mainsail halyard (look at me and my use of the proper lingo!) hooked up and going up & down. But... the &%@# mainsheet...

Im attaching even more pocs in the hopes yall can point me in the right direction.

First, Im not sure WHAT I should be attaching to the end of the boom

Good news: I think you have it rigged correctly for what rigging you have. Your boom has been converted to mid-boom sheeting, and the main sheet rig connects from the mid-boom bail to the bow eye (u-bolt) in the cockpit wall.



Bad news: you need to buy a main sheet rig. You should probably replace your backstay. You should run a separate topping lift.

Note: the bad news isn't really bad, but you need more stuff to make it right and complete. You were wondering what to do with all of your extra money, right?

I haven't seen a combination backstay and topping lift before, but it appears one of the previous owners made some changes.

My concern is how the topping lift is attached to the backstay. The backstay should be a continuous wire rope from the mast connection down to the backstay adjuster. In fact, I'm not sure I trust the backstay after it's been DIY'd like that. I would suggest getting in touch with http://shop.bwyachts.com/category-s/291.htm, and see if you can get a real backstay and get them to explain the correct topping lift for that boat. Otherwise, you can run a separate topping lift of your own design. The backstay is critical. The topping lift is a convenience.

[Be Free]

After seeing both attachment points together I'm pretty sure Jimmy is right about the main sheet. The PO (previous owner) seems to have made several modifications to the boat. Moving the main sheet attachment point from the end of the boom to mid-boom reduces the forces seen by the main sheet. I am becoming more convinced that the thing on your backstay is your missing main sheet.

The only time the backstay should see any significant forces is when you are running with the wind behind you. In fact, for better performance it is common to loosen the back stay when you are not running. It is obvious that the boat had an adjustable backstay at one time but the adjusting part of it has gone AWOL.

This is what the adjustable backstay looks like on my . Notice that it is only 3:1. That is more than enough to handle anything the backstay should throw at you. Being able to loosen the backstay also makes it a lot easier to attach the forestay when you are raising the mast.

[Tomfoolery]

Moving the main sheet attachment point from the end of the boom to mid-boom reduces the forces seen by the main sheet.

Uh . . . might want to rethink that statement.

[Be Free]

I'm open to education. I must be remembering incorrectly. Hit me with the math.

[Jimmyt]

I am becoming more convinced that the thing on your backstay is your missing main sheet.

That was my initial thought, too. But I looked at the backstay kit from bwyachts- and guess what it looks like...

http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3441-1v0.htm

[Jimmyt]

Moving the main sheet attachment point from the end of the boom to mid-boom reduces the forces seen by the main sheet.

Uh . . . might want to rethink that statement.

Slow ball, right in the strike zone.

[Be Free]

Never mind. I just did a quick calculation on my napkin and you are correct. There are other advantages to a mid-boom connection but reducing forces on the main sheet is not one of them.

[Be Free]

I am becoming more convinced that the thing on your backstay is your missing main sheet.

That was my initial thought, too. But I looked at the backstay kit from bwyachts- and guess what it looks like...

http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3441-1v0.htm

That is one beefy backstay adjuster.

[Jimmyt]

I am becoming more convinced that the thing on your backstay is your missing main sheet.

That was my initial thought, too. But I looked at the backstay kit from bwyachts- and guess what it looks like...

http://shop.bwyachts.com/product-p/3441-1v0.htm

That is one beefy backstay adjuster.

Looks like they had some extra main sheet rigs laying around and figured this was a good way to move them out...

[Jimmyt]

Never mind. I just did a quick calculation on my napkin and you are correct. There are other advantages to a mid-boom connection but reducing forces on the main sheet is not one of them.

Tom has a pretty large wheelhouse, and this stuff is smack in the middle. He's graded my work a time or two, and I always appreciate it. He never gives a wire brushing, just a correction. And, I generally require a lot of them.