Water Ballast and -7c (19F)

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Re: Water Ballast and -7c (19F)

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Hi John -- :)
I also didnt think the siphon would work to drain the bilge water into the river. I was thinking the man who was just trying to help us was a joker, but after about 15 minutes I noticed the water level had dropped a few inches.
Therefore the water level in the bilge was necessarily higher than the water level outside the boat.

Hi Dido – :)

I would suggest going forward as well. That’s how ice breakers work, they ride up on top of the ice and then crush it downward with their weight. Since the hull takes beachings readily, as we have repeatedly seen on this website, there should not be a serious structural issue with this if the ice is thin. But the centre ridge is the strong point along the hull.

Have some of your weightiest friends on board to move aft to raise the bow up, then move forward to push down on the ice. :wink:

Are you planning on towing it with a long rope (anchor line?) or using the motor? If motoring, I would expect that even moving forward ice chunks would do a real number on your prop. So use an old one if you have one. :cry:

If you do this it would be nice if you could note the ice thickness that the hull is able to crush and report back to us. I would really like to know.

I decided not to post it before, but I would think that if the time comes and ice is thick enough to support the weight of the boat without breaking that you could easily winch it along on top of the ice, with very little drag. The issue, of course, it getting it out of its “HOLE” and up on top of the ice, and you would still have to empty the ballast somehow. Would there be room to place styrofoam bars around the outside of the hull against the ice to temporarily absorb some of the expansion of the ice? Or, use, the float toys that we call here, “pool noodles”, doubled up with tape?

Good luck - Brian.

ps.Sorry that you are in this predicament, but I wish I were there because I LOVE the challenge of working on problems like this.
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Re: Water Ballast and -7c (19F)

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Went down at the weekend to find the ice melting, broke the ice around the pontoon using a sledge hammer on a long line,I felt positive only for my wife to come and stop me because someone had slipped their boat in the slip and left it there, I would have been tempted to move it but it was brand new !
So we emptied some water from the ballast tank using an electric syphon pump from maplin and made her good, last few night have been below -8 and not getting above freezing during the day, we will have to cancel our xmas sailing but if Heathrow can't get planes to take off then I don't feel that bad..... instead we will take the land yacht(Caravan) out over xmas.......now how do I stopped the water tank from freezing???? :)
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Re: Water Ballast and -7c (19F)

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You just add a couple bottles of monkey shoulder to it - no need to drain it in the spring..
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Now Catigale, that's a rediculous suggestion. :P It just won't work if Dido likes his Monkey Shoulder neat! :D
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Just to update you all, the ice turned to flood water and last weekend I had to adjust the lines to stop her floating over the pontoon (they are fixed) two boats were not so lucky and I'm not sure if they were damaged by the ice but they work sitting on the bottom of the marina. Couldn't take her out as the slip way was 5 feet under !!!

This weekend we took her out down the river for a bit of winter camping, no sign of any ice damage and the ballest water level was the same as before the freeze, what's more our Mercury Bigfoot started 1st time.......amazing after such cold weather.

I must also add that our C&J full canopy seems to help the inside warm up durning limited sunshine, I wonder if this generated heat was enough to help keep the Ballest from freezing ???

Taking her out next weekend to fit a propex heater, the small butane heater we have is not quite enough for winter cruising !!! Thanks for all your suggestions, especially those involving alcohol.
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Re: Water Ballast and -7c (19F)

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Dido

if your on the nene,be carefull around the back of the island at ferry Medows,there are rocks there that will rip your prop off and if you have not got them already,you will need lot of fenders for the locks as they dont half scratch your mac.What marina are you using?

Ive had problems with the rise and fall of the river so i now take mine out,ive found mine twice with the bow on the path and the stern in the water.
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