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Frankly, why should he stop building the M and design a new M? He's already done a good job, the boat is still selling well [isn't it?] and he wants a new personal challenge, which is what the 70' gives him.

Forget the business, he has got to an age when he is bored with the standard business stuff, and feels that he wants to do something for himself, and if it can be offset against tax, and make a bit of money too, then so much the better.

How old would Roger be? 60? I think many of us are at that stage in our lives and know the feeling?

Paul.

Didn't MikeLinmon post something a couple of years back about Roger building a personal 70 footer and then starting a design on a 30 to 33 ft trailer boat?

The 70' will be a semi-custom high end boat costing $250K. It's never going to be a "bread-and-butter" boat like the 26M, which they will continue to produce. When they made the 65' they previously built they never stopped building the smaller boats that paid the bills.

Mike Inmon said he wished for a 35' and he's been trying to talk MacGregor into it but it hasn't gone anywhere. I'd buy a 35' in a heartbeat if I could still trailer and launch it but there's no way they'd sell as many. Maybe the resin limit in CA will eventually cause them to go up-scale since they can only build 240 boats a year now.

I'm not sure why they don't just move the factory to Yuma or Ensenada. Perhaps they will once the economy picks up and they can't keep up with demand. Their production capacity when limited by forms is four boats a day.

mastreb wrote:The 70' will be a semi-custom high end boat costing $250K....

I was thinking it was going to be much higher than that, but I just can't remember the conversation from when we were there . I would think that building the old 65 at today's costs would be over $200,000 and some of the ones I've seen for sale were asking over $200,000. If/when the 70 gets built I think it will be state of the art and is going to be a very expensive design not meant to be built in anywhere near the quantities that the 65 was built.

It is going to be interesting to see it play out ,

Sum

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mastreb wrote: I'm not sure why they don't just move the factory to Yuma or Ensenada.

Would YOU rather live in Yuma or Ensenada or Costa Mesa and Huntington Beach

It's not like Roger is living week to week and needs to increase production to live

Rick

Uncle Jim wrote:Didn't MikeLinmon post something a couple of years back about Roger building a personal 70 footer and then starting a design on a 30 to 33 ft trailer boat?

No - - - I don't think so - - - I just showed him this site in Jan 2007.

Rick

Costa Mesa and Huntington Beach

Getting pretty close to Orange county, the Paris of LA......

Uncle Jim wrote:Didn't MikeLinmon post something a couple of years back about Roger building a personal 70 footer and then starting a design on a 30 to 33 ft trailer boat?

A couple of years ago, Art Kelly was here talking about building his version of the Hobie 33, called the WingZ Z33, but apparently nothing ever came of that.

Catigale wrote:

Costa Mesa and Huntington Beach

Getting pretty close to Orange county, the Paris of LA......

Waddaya mean pretty close - - - they're both IN Orange County

Rick

pokerrick1 wrote:

mastreb wrote: I'm not sure why they don't just move the factory to Yuma or Ensenada.

Would YOU rather live in Yuma or Ensenada or Costa Mesa and Huntington Beach

It's not like Roger is living week to week and needs to increase production to live

Rick

Good point. I lived in Yuma for five years as a kid and swore it off.

mastreb wrote: Good point. I lived in Yuma for five years as a kid and swore it off.

I went through Yuma once on my way from to Phoenix from El Centro (one of the Garden Cities of southeastern California). The most interesting thing I saw there was a casino which used to be in Arizona but now is half in Arizona and half in California because the river that was the State boundry MOVED! Weird So the Casino had to get Govenor I'll Be Back (The maid killer) to override the State Moratorium on Casinos and Casinos Licenses and issue them a California license (which he arranged).

Rick

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K9Kampers wrote:

Uncle Jim wrote:Didn't MikeLinmon post something a couple of years back about Roger building a personal 70 footer and then starting a design on a 30 to 33 ft trailer boat?

A couple of years ago, Art Kelly was here talking about building his version of the Hobie 33, called the WingZ Z33, but apparently nothing ever came of that.

I thought I'd remembered seeing something about this before - here's the website, complete with Z-33... http://www.wingzsailboats.com/

Do I understand correctly that Bob and Joni with a Mac D named Andiano are having their boat "tested" by the factory? I heard this on the HPCC e-mail site. I would like to hear about what the factory actually does as opposed to all the speculation in this thread.

The mold is being made for Hunter who is going to start mass building these in Florida, for Macgregor as this is the market sweet spot right now.



Jim