Macgregor 65/70 Discussion

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Re: Macgregor 65/70 Discussion

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Boat is correct. I've seen the actual hull of the new boat, and that's the fail-safe: You just flood both if something goes wrong, then you're deep and heavy (and slow). The low-side is the empty side that's in the water.

It's a clever design but I personally wouldn't have a sailboat that requires routine power operation.
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Re: Macgregor 65/70 Discussion

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mastreb wrote:Boat is correct. I've seen the actual hull of the new boat, and that's the fail-safe: You just flood both if something goes wrong, then you're deep and heavy (and slow). The low-side is the empty side that's in the water.

It's a clever design but I personally wouldn't have a sailboat that requires routine power operation.
It's only fail safe if you can get the boat back up on it's feet. How does that work on our boats? Can't fill the ballast while moving or sailing.

It's a clever means of getting lots more ballast. Great for what I suppose that boat will be built for, speed. My boat doesn't go fast and I'm okay with that. I'm not going anywhere, it's the journey.
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Most of the water ballast transfer will be "dump before tacking". Pump will be used very little other than to pump out the entire ballast when not needed. The water ballast will be used when needed only. Spinnaker reaching or upwind in a breeze, otherwise no water ballast. My guess is on a cruise or daysail, never. As to progress, the interior is painted! The paint is wet, glossy look, like a custom car. Almost all of the parts are done. Motor is installed, head installed, keel bolts are drilled and tapped. Assy remains. Just put her together and paint the hull.
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mikelinmon wrote:Most of the water ballast transfer will be "dump before tacking". Pump will be used very little other than to pump out the entire ballast when not needed. The water ballast will be used when needed only. Spinnaker reaching or upwind in a breeze, otherwise no water ballast. My guess is on a cruise or daysail, never. As to progress, the interior is painted! The paint is wet, glossy look, like a custom car. Almost all of the parts are done. Motor is installed, head installed, keel bolts are drilled and tapped. Assy remains. Just put her together and paint the hull.
That makes a lot of sense Mike based on that huge weight you showed us at the plant that goes on the end of the keel. (DUH!) What was i thinking!?)

The MAC70 don't need to damn water ballast! It's already got a fully weighted keel! (DOH!) I saw it with my own eyes, but I did not comprehend the significance of it. The ballast tanks just add more stability and make a narrow boat even stiffer - by the way, I have been reading many many posts on the internet from owners of the MAC 65 and they are RAVE at how much better it is in heavy seas that any other boat on the water. Especially the later model pilot house version.

It's my favorite boat - make me a millionaire and that's the boat I want - the BIG MAC!
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Re: Macgregor 65/70 Discussion

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BOAT--You can afford a used Mac 65 now.

The new 70? I expect it'll be $1M out the door. That's CHEAP for a 70' boat, but beyond my means.

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mastreb wrote:BOAT--You can afford a used Mac 65 now.

The new 70? I expect it'll be $1M out the door. That's CHEAP for a 70' boat, but beyond my means.

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Yup, the used 65's are affordable to purchase. They seem to be holding their value as well. Slipping a boat that big could cost you a bundle though.

Agree that the new 70 with all those carbon fiber goodies will easily be over $1M. My guess is twice that. No doubt a fast craft as well. I've never been into the racing scene. I've seen some of those guys and they are a unique bunch.

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It's the slip guys - the rent on the college apartment for the kid is already killing me along with tuition - a slip that big would cost a fortune - this is a rich guys sport
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Sorry, Boat. Sailing extreme machines has always been a rich mans sport. Extreme way back when meant 120 foot and took all the money the titans of industry at the time could throw at them.
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otoh, "there's somethin' women like 'bout a 4-wheelin' man" - for the rest of us. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I51JXp ... cLwk#t=191
Ixneigh wrote:Sorry, Boat. Sailing extreme machines has always been a rich mans sport. Extreme way back when meant 120 foot and took all the money the titans of industry at the time could throw at them.
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dlandersson wrote:otoh, "there's somethin' women like 'bout a 4-wheelin' man" - for the rest of us. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I51JXp ... cLwk#t=191
Ixneigh wrote:Sorry, Boat. Sailing extreme machines has always been a rich mans sport. Extreme way back when meant 120 foot and took all the money the titans of industry at the time could throw at them.
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The guy is playing a Chet Atkins Sunburst in that vid - same as my guitar.
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Hi all,
I have many photos of the M70 in my phone So, someone with time to kill please show me how to post pics and 2nd video's

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Any of you guys with a server should probably give Mike your email address and just have Mike email those photos and vids to your email and then just put a link out for everyone to see. It would probably take a long time for Mike to put all that stuff on Photo-Bucket and that web site is so slow anyways, and besides, heath won't let more than 3 pictures at a time on a post so maybe a link to a server might be better?

I don't have a server.
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Ohh, nice. But, I don't know what any of that means. I can click the button on the cell phone. Have pity on me, make it easy and you'll get crazy photos. Some of this you won't have seen and some of those rumors! A carbon fiber mast so light I can pick up one end of. And for the Tattoo 22, yes, it's comming
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Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum, I've owned my Macgreggor 65 pilot house for over a year now and I've run into a slight anomaly..... my research has lead me to believe that there were only 100 Mac 65's manufactured, so how do I have hull number 101? I have the accompanying documentation saying it is in fact 101 along with the hull identification number being 101. The original name of the vessel was "Mistral III"

The original owner is (if he's still around) in his late 80s by now so I haven't been able to get in contact with him at all.

Does anyone have a way of getting any information on this conundrum?

Kind regards,
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Hi Jason,

Sounds like a laywer owned the boat. That's a clue - you can cross check the name you have with the list of partners names in the local law firms where the boat was berthed to see if the law firm is still around. They might have your answers.

Captain Mike Inmon would also probably know the answer to 101 also, so there may be a chance that he might respond.

Good luck.
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