Hello everyone, newbie here.
Was wondering if there is a consensus regarding acceptable moisture levels in the plywood core areas of the deck and floors.
I found a Mac25 project boat with around 40% moisture levels in those areas, including under the mast base. For reference, the non-cored (solid) glass areas were showing 3%. It's also been sitting outside in Canadian winter with its usual freeze and thaw cycles.
That said, it's my top choice aside from a C&C Mega 30, which are much harder to come by. Can I squeeze a few more years out of it or should I move on? Should also note it has some trailer damage on the hull that has been bondoed over and will need repair.
Plywood core moisture levels
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AzoresGlide
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- Wyb2
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Re: Plywood core moisture levels
My understanding is that the actual reading on a pinless moisture meter is not very meaningful. It’s not measuring moisture directly, it’s measuring capacitance. You really need to get some reference points on similar materials, so non-cored areas aren’t a great reference point. Some scrap dry plywood might be better if you can’t find an area of known dry core.
On my boat the deck would read anywhere from ~15% to pegging the meter. That was helpful because 15% became my reference point. I drilled exploratory holes, and was surprised to find even areas reading 90% seemed completely fine and the shavings weren’t noticeably wet. Some areas pegging the meter had rot around the hardware mounting holes.
On my boat the deck would read anywhere from ~15% to pegging the meter. That was helpful because 15% became my reference point. I drilled exploratory holes, and was surprised to find even areas reading 90% seemed completely fine and the shavings weren’t noticeably wet. Some areas pegging the meter had rot around the hardware mounting holes.
- kenfyoozed
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Re: Plywood core moisture levels
I am in the process of replacing the core in my 26D. Unless the price is very attractive , ie free I would suggest to keep looking. I thought I had a good boat but it turns out not to be the case. It will be almost bullet proof when I’m done.
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Chumpy36
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Re: Plywood core moisture levels
How are you doing it? Cutting from top or bottom? I have a couple soft spots. I replaced the rotted core near the mast base with synthetic material and it’s solid as a rock now. Will likely use that stuff again.kenfyoozed wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:36 am I am in the process of replacing the core in my 26D. Unless the price is very attractive , ie free I would suggest to keep looking. I thought I had a good boat but it turns out not to be the case. It will be almost bullet proof when I’m done.
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Re: Plywood core moisture levels
I am cutting from the top. I am leaving about 1-2" around the perimeter. I used a "chain saw" disc on a angle grinder to remove the core as far under the perimeter as I could. I will use a 1/2" Coosa under the tabs. It will be bedded with compound. Then a 1/4" Coosa layer will be added to bring the core lever with the original fiberglass. Finished up with at least 2 layers of dbm1708 or db170. Not sure if I will be using polyester or epoxy yet. I want to secure the core with epoxy but glass it over with poly, but epoxy is probably a better choice over all.
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AzoresGlide
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Re: Plywood core moisture levels
Interesting, thanks everyone. I guess at this age every deck will be wet and it's just a matter of it not cracking.
An idea emerged to remove the mast, cover the fragile deck with solar panels, and fit a long shaft 1000w electric outboard, equivalent to 4hp.
This seems interesting because it should increase relative stability. Might get away with boating around with the swing keel up
An idea emerged to remove the mast, cover the fragile deck with solar panels, and fit a long shaft 1000w electric outboard, equivalent to 4hp.
This seems interesting because it should increase relative stability. Might get away with boating around with the swing keel up
