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Is the 2002 26X equipped with bilge pumps? If not, are there existing through-hulls on the vessel that can be utilized when I install them?
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Post by Tsunami »

I'm pretty sure it would not have bilge pumps as original equipment. Many folks have added them, check the "mods" section.
There are thru hulls for the galley sink and head sink drains that could be used.
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No preinstalled bilge pumps in the 26x. There are 2 thru hulls above the waterline for the galley sink and the head sink. Some people have installed their own bilge pumps. :macx:
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Thank you for the replies. I have located what appears to be very clean 2002 X. Different questions keep popping up as I evaluate the boat, as I have no experience with sailboats or motorsailers. I look forward to everyone’s feedback.
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Can anyone give me a ballpark knot reading on this boat’s probable SOG running a Yamaha 50 iron jib - 17°pitch propeller- at WOT and likely fuel flow at that throttle angle? With and / or without full ballast?

Also, what kind of unassisted, strictly sailing speeds am I likely to see with correctly trimmed sails in, say, a 15K wind at a stern- quartering, downwind angle (standard jib / mainsail deployed). I read somewhere where the hull speed is rated at something approximating 7.5K, is that correct?
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Hull speed; 5.2 - 6.1 knots.
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No 26X has bildge pumps as OEM equipment. An owner needs to install one per thier desires and budget. 8)
burningblue wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:43 pm Is the 2002 26X equipped with bilge pumps? If not, are there existing through-hulls on the vessel that can be utilized when I install them?
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Outboard spped with a 50 HP outboard is likely to be 12 - 16 knots (water ballast/no water ballast).
Was this X previously in Ohio/Indiana? I might be familiar with it. 8)
burningblue wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm Can anyone give me a ballpark knot reading on this boat’s probable SOG running a Yamaha 50 iron jib - 17°pitch propeller- at WOT and likely fuel flow at that throttle angle? With and / or without full ballast?

Also, what kind of unassisted, strictly sailing speeds am I likely to see with correctly trimmed sails in, say, a 15K wind at a stern- quartering, downwind angle (standard jib / mainsail deployed). I read somewhere where the hull speed is rated at something approximating 7.5K, is that correct?
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dlandersson wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:16 am Outboard spped with a 50 HP outboard is likely to be 12 - 16 knots (water ballast/no water ballast).
Was this X previously in Ohio/Indiana? I might be familiar with it. 8)
burningblue wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm Can anyone give me a ballpark knot reading on this boat’s probable SOG running a Yamaha 50 iron jib - 17°pitch propeller- at WOT and likely fuel flow at that throttle angle? With and / or without full ballast?

Also, what kind of unassisted, strictly sailing speeds am I likely to see with correctly trimmed sails in, say, a 15K wind at a stern- quartering, downwind angle (standard jib / mainsail deployed). I read somewhere where the hull speed is rated at something approximating 7.5K, is that correct?
Thank you for the information and interest...that's encouraging.
They're selling it out of Lake Lanier in Ga. Dealer claims it's a locally-owned and kept vessel, and that it's never seen salt. Also encouraging.
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NiceAft wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 10:23 pm Hull speed; 5.2 - 6.1 knots.
Thank you for the input.

Mr. Mac always claimed that the 26 was faster than it's peers of similar length; I was thinking that that is because the 26 is perhaps a semi-displacement hull that can plane at a certain speed, and that it has a lower displacement weight than a pure sailing keelboat of equal length.

Welcome your thoughts if you care to opine on that.
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Have an 2002 :macx: on a perfect day I get 5.5kt under sail. Ive hit 6 a few times briefly but not been able to sustain that. Anything above 4 feels great imho.
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burningblue wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm Can anyone give me a ballpark knot reading on this boat’s probable SOG running a Yamaha 50 iron jib - 17°pitch propeller- at WOT and likely fuel flow at that throttle angle? With and / or without full ballast?

Also, what kind of unassisted, strictly sailing speeds am I likely to see with correctly trimmed sails in, say, a 15K wind at a stern- quartering, downwind angle (standard jib / mainsail deployed). I read somewhere where the hull speed is rated at something approximating 7.5K, is that correct?
Max speed we ever achieved with a Honda 50, stripped boat, no ballast and mast down was 15 mph on a good day.
We,ve sail as fast as 8+ mph with the 150 Genoa and full Main on a broad reach. Our new sails are a big improvement for sure. 135 Genoa and loose footed Main, 6 oz cloth vs our McGregor "diaper" sails.

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Thank you for the detailed response. Boat I’m considering has but original stock main and jib. Looks like I won’t be leaving any dolphins in the dust. But that’s OK. First boat with diapers.
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pitchpolehobie wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:12 pm Have an 2002 :macx: on a perfect day I get 5.5kt under sail. Ive hit 6 a few times briefly but not been able to sustain that. Anything above 4 feels great imho.
Thanks for that - very helpful. With all the hoopla about this being such a fast boat for its size, good to receive a bit of reality to balance things out.
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Boat I’m considering apparently just has standard OEM main and jib rigging. Looking for opinions on whether the jib can be managed from the cockpit single-handed. I was thinking it might be essential to have a furler based on my reading and videos. Experienced sailor / sales guy says the foresail can be handled “no problem” from the cockpit.

Also, can any of the sails be reefed without leaving the cockpit with OEM standard running rigging?
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