ALL LINES to cockpit

[delevi]

I had several threads on this in the past, but kept modifying the setup until I got it just right. I believe it is now just right. With the exception of the Cunningham and spinnaker halyard/chute-scoop, all my control lines are now lead aft to the cockpit. Here is a list of the lines along with pictures and description:

Main halyard
Vang
Outhaul (8 power)
Single line reefing x 2 (one for each reef point)
Topping lift
Ballasted keel (6:1 purchase system)
Furler


Starboard clutches holding the main halyard (gray line,) keel (red line,) outhaoul (green line,) and vang (white line with red speckles)


Tripple block used to route the lines. They do cross over the front of the jib tracks, making the first hole unusable. No biggie (IMHO)


This is hwere the blocks are mounted at the mast base. Swive blocks are attached to deck-bolted padeyes. The single block is for the halyard. The double is for the outhaul and vang.


Here is where the lines are routed to feed back to the boom (single block) for the outhaul, and up to the sail reef tacks (double block)


Boom, starboard side where you can see the reefing lines feed through their respective blocks and up to the reef clews. The outhaul line has a 4:1 block and tackle system X2 with the 2:1 purchase through the clew giving a powerful outhaoul controlled right from the cockpit.


This is the boom's end, starboard side. Here you can see the outhaul block and a horn cleat on the port side. Outhaul and all three reef lines are tied to the port horn cleat.


Port side clutches used for the topping lift, reef lines, and furling line


Turning block on the port side


Here is the base of the mast on the port side. The tripple block feeds the two reefing lines and the topping lift.

The picture of the vang didn't come out, but basically it is a split 2:1 x2 with one end of the second 2:1 tied to an eyestrap on the mast, port side and the starboard end feeding through the deck mounted block, throug the tripple block at the stanchion and aft to the clutch.

Fair Winds,
Leon

[bastonjock]

i was reading one of the other threads on this and i was wondering when you were going to post some pics

[beene]

Personally, I like meatballs with my spaghetti!



Nice work Leon.

G

[eric3a]

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[delevi]

Eric,

Your setup looks nice and clean. The X deck layout lends itself more to cleaner lines. The jib tracks are more inboard and further aft. Also, you don't have to acommodate for mast rotation when seting up blocks to go aft (quite a challange.) You also have fewer lines since you don't have to deal with a furler and keel line with large blocks. I tried my best to keep the pasta as neat as possible, but with all those control lines and facilitating the rotating mast I just saw no better way to do it, short of running lines under deck or in mast/in boom, etc, which I wasn't willing to do. All in all, I'm happy with the setup.

Leon

[egwall1]

I would like to see the string of photos posted by delevi above showing his lines led aft, but all the photo boxes just have a little box with red "x" in the upper left corner. Is there a setting I can change to be able to see the photos?
Thanks for any help anyone might be able to offer.

[bastonjock]

after a while the photos on posts expire,im sure delvi will respond to your request.there is a lot of info in the Mods section regarding all lines led aft

im working on the mod myself,the first thing to do is to order the sail slugs from sailrite and fit them

[delevi]

Photos are back up.

[ccarpediem]

Delevi, thx for getting those pics back up. Very useful as I'm looking to do a similar project. Quick question. 3rd pic from the top, you have a double block mounted near the base of the mast and I see the lines are heading very different directions. Does that cause any issues (binding ect as the blocks may not be pointing quite the right direction for either of them? I ask because I was originally planning to use double blocks in similar manner (would much prefer it), but was thinking there may be issues using a double for two lines that are leaving the block at such different angles. Is this an issue or does all work fine the way you have it?

Cheers!
Tony

[delevi]

Tony,

The double block works fine. The lines enter at different angles but exit at the same angle since they lead to the same place-the tripple block at the starboard stanchion. I should have used a slightly larger block but the one I have still works fine. Using two singles would cause a different problem. They would each swivel in different directions and get in each other's way. If you have an make sure all your blocks at the mast base swivel so mast rotation isn't an issue. If it's an it probably isn't an issue, though swivels won't hurt. The different entry angles at the double block are the outhaul and vang. I did have some issues with mast rotation when one or both of those lines were under load. The probelm is now solved. In my case, rig tension was extreme. I reduced rig tension and also installed the ball bearing from BWY. Mast rotates great now, even with all lines under load, including reefing lines. I recommend the ball bearing (only $20.) Really helps it rotate smoother.

Hope this helped.

Cheers,
L.

[Paul Brinkley]

Delevi, once you get all of those lines in the cockpit, what do you do with them to avoid tangles? None of the pictures showed this, and I'm very curious. My lines are each coiled near where they are made fast, so I don't have a problem getting them mixed up or tangled. Using your pictures and those of Eric3a I believe I could lead my lines to the cockpit (thanks, both of you), but I would like to know how you handle storage. Same for you, Eric3a. Enlightenment would be appreciated!

[Terry]

I don't know what Delevi uses but I use Davis Sticky Bags (google it). I have three of them for lines, the mainsheet goes in the bag just below the traveller and I have two more on each bulkhead just below the winches to gather the jib/genoa sheets. I coil the halyards and hook them onto something I have installed on the two stantions near the winches. I also have a different version of those sticky bags with multi-pockets on each side of the helm seat for various items I don't want rolling around and I also have them sewn onto my gas tank covers to hold more stuff. With the exception of the gas tank covers they use heavy suction cups to hold in place, they work for me, and they ccome in pacific blue to match the rest of my canvas and accessories.

[Paul Brinkley]

Thanks, Terry. I was thinking about some kind of container, but the bags are probably less intrusive than any rigid container. Fair winds! -Paul

[delevi]

Until recently, I have just tucked excess line under the front of the cockpit cushions. Not much of a problem tangling. Now I use a cable/wire holder... one on each side, attached to the lifelines. 99 cents at Home depot. All lines can be coiled and the little plastic doo-ha keeps it suspended just below the lifelines nice and tidy. Really easy to open it up when you need one of the lines. I don't have a picture at the moment, but they're orange. Basically a flexible plastic foil with a small handle on one end. Two clip-in/locking positions, depending on how much line you're hanging on it.

Leon

[Paul Brinkley]

Thanks, Delevi. I'm going to try a couple of bags as Terry uses, but I've got a big fat compass on one side, so I may have to try some kind of hanger for one line on that side. Look for Spring! -Paul