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I have come to my senses - - - the rock has hit me in the head - - - after 4 ½ months living in San Felipe, BC, Mexico, we have decided that this is a great place to visit, but we don’t want to live here anymore and on Friday, 10/31, we are returning to the USA permanently - - - and will head toward the Las Vegas, NV area to relocate, where I will try to refrain from gaining back the weight I lost here (fat chance)! We have learned that even though we live comfortably in a gated community where all the residents are either American, Canadian or British, this IS a third world backwards country, and we miss many of the American amenities not available to us here - - like movie theaters, KFC, and car radio we can understand, and decent Internet connections other than WiFi. However, most of the reason for not remaining here has to do with the Mac - - -

1) The sailing here s u c k s :( In the summer, although the winds are perfect, it is too hot to sail during the day (105 or so average) - - - so there remains a very small sailing window of opportunity in the early evening only - - - and it is STILL very hot then - - - so four months out of the year sailing opportunity is limited, and I’m a guy who got out 250 times in 2007 while I was in Marina Del Rey, so I like to get out A LOT - - - but I DON’T like sailing at night. At this time the temperatures are better for sailing, but the winds are way too strong for me - - - for me that is not fun as most days I singlehand.

2) The marina here REALLY s u c k s! It is basically unprotected from the Sea. If you go to Google Earth and type in San Felipe, BC, Mexico, and then go south from town along the beach you will see the Sea Wall with three sides and an opening to the Sea on the east wall. The engineers who built this wall really messed up because there is no channel out to the Sea to protect the harbor, just a hole in the seawall. Basically then, when the wind gets up to about 30 MPH (basically every other day since summer ended), the water comes both OVER the wall from the north or through the entrance from the east and you can surf inside the harbor if you so desire! Add to that the fact that they put the recreational docks and fuel dock in the worst possible place (in the southwest corner of the harbor instead of the much preferred northwest corner) and we wind up with an ABSOLUTE DISASTER on our docks when the wind blows!!! The water CRASHES over the docks and rocks even the big boats unmercifully! The experienced guys who know tell me that these brand new docks will not last through their first year - - - they are getting ripped apart already. After the first weekend of wind here, my Mac sustained a bunch of damage, including a five inch vertical split in the hull from crashing against the dock after not one, not two, but THREE lines broke, which I think goes all the way through - - - hard to tell because the inside wall in the V berth is covered with a carpet like wall covering. I had the boat secured no where near the docks - - - a LOT had to happen before it could bang against the dock - - - and it all DID!! Fortunately the split is very high on the hull, just below the deck, so the boat did not take on any water. The split is about at the end of the forward windows on the deck.

Another major piece of damage occurred to the shore power receptacle, which was ripped completely out of the hull. The wiring is still there and apparently intact, but it will take a new receptacle and some careful fiberglass work to repair correctly. I had two coils of the shore power line around the safety lifeline before it was plugged in - - - so it must have taken a heck of a beating to sustain that much damage.

I am now told by the other recreational sailors here (all of whom are more experienced and know much more about the area than I) that the winds will sustain at 30 MPH+ for much of the time until summer arrives again - - - so I had to pull the boat out of the marina, both to protect it from further damage and to get it repaired (my deductibles are high enough that I will just have to eat the cost of repairs). After I got “The Nuts” back on its trailer I noticed another problem: when I put the boat in the water on 9/9/08, the bottom paint was in LIKE NEW condition. When I pulled it on 10/14, the paint is GONE on the front half of the hull and almost gone on the aft half (another dime ($1,000) down the tubes)! So I said to myself “self, how the h e l l did this happen”? At first I thought it might have been a result of some kind of electrolysis - - - but then one of the “old salts” explained it to me. Because of the monster tide fluctuations here (21 feet now) the sand on the bottom of the first mile out into the Sea of the water REALLY gets stirred up, causing the water to take on a greenish, gray-brownish color and causing the water to be VERY concentrated with sand the first mile out - - - which acts like sandpaper (pardon the pun) on the hull when it slices through the water - - - which has in JUST ONE MONTH sanded the paint off the bottom (BEAUTIFUL – JUST BEAUTIFUL). This, of course, would be a recurring problem if I stayed here (I wondered why the fishing Pangas don’t have bottom paint).

I knew conditions would not be perfect here for sailing - - - and I AM SPOILED having previously been based in MDR - - - but this is awful and I can tolerate it no longer! It’s not that I didn’t do my homework before moving here - - - I did - - - but nowhere were these kind of winds mentioned as prevailing most of the year - - - I was very specific in trying to obtain that information. Add to that the fact that the Mexican Government could not have located the recreational docks in a worse place in the harbor (and this is the last one they built in the ladder around Baja - - you think they would have learned something), and the fact that the fishermen (in the Pangas) hate recreational boaters for being in their harbor in the first place, and boating here has become a most unpleasant experience!! I surrender - - - time to go - - - without sailing, this is a nice place to visit, but

Now I want to ask you guys who live around Las Vegas and Lake Mead (I know about Lake Mead and Calville Marina - - - I was there for Mead Madness in 2006), what other bodies of water exist around there which are suitable for a Mac??? It seems to me Calville is a long way to travel to get out on the water. How big are the alternatives and how far from maybe the 15 and 215?? I need to be on the water in a slip!

We have learned much here and I don’t regret the experiences, but it is time to return home.

Rick :) :macm:
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after 2 years on an island (Curacao) the Boss had enough and we also came "home" Welcome back!
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Rick, go home,

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Post by bscott »

Sorry to hear about Mexico---Lake Mead is just as hot, how about Lake Tahoe? Slips, casinos, year round sailing? I'm looking at Corpus or thereabouts. Keep us posted 8)

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So... which one is yours?

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So tell us Rick, what do you really think :D

Welcome back :wink:

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Post by Divecoz »

Other side of the water has all you want and more! East side of The Sea of Cortez, is San Carlos, Sonora Mexico all you want and a lot more and better at everything.....
Sorry my friend you just didn't research enough. If you had asked me I could have directed you. But all is not lost unless your just too soured yourself for anything but home. Even if that is what it is for now . . . .San Carlos is not that far of a tow from what you may next call home . JSYK Lake Mead has its draw backs as well.... be ready Power Boats from hull Party weekends with hundreds and hundreds of power boats and music coast to coast shore to shore.....just a couple of the draw backs ......
But keep looking you'll find a fit and hey you had an adventure and Life my friend is about adventures you lived to talk about.....
Didnt Chinook from this board spend last winter in San Carlos? I am sorry for ya, but I have in all my years of Mexico travel ( 16 )never heard much good about Baja...
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Welcome back to America Rick. I think Tahoe would be a good spot for you. Great sailing in the spring and summer... and plenty of casinos all around. It does snow in the winter though.
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Even here in the inland northwest in Washington state I don,t sail 3 blocks from my house the last of July to mid Sept because of 110 deg F it is too hot on deck. It is only 5 hours across the Cascade Mountains to the 80 deg comfortable SanJuan Islands and I am setup and on the water. Last weekend I sailed in 68 deg weather and 15 mph breezes and the city morrage with power is free right beside the yacht club morrage. If I were looking for a new place to move to I would have to look real hard in all seasons and close optional posibilities to trailor to.
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Post by dennisneal »

Rick,

I'm very sad to hear that you're not happy. :cry:

But, on the other hand, I'm glad that you're coming back! :D

What little I know, (and some of the lot that I don't know):

Isn't Lake Mead infested with zebra mussels? Also, the drought has caused the water level to drop by about 100 feet below normal. Has that affected boating/sailing conditions?

I think its awfully hard to beat Marina Del Rey and/or Dana Point for year-round sailing. I'll bet everyone would love to see you back at MDR, (including Margaret and me).

Let me know if I can help.
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Alice(admiral) and I have been blessed with world travel, but nothing like home in the USA, wherever that might be. WELCOME HOME. Just a little farther east, and you hit ORIENTAL, NC 8) 8) , year round sailing, except for hurricanes, unless you want to give one a try!! Alice and Stew, "The Restless Two"
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We are almost settled in our new home in Henderson (very nice), but I don't know what to do with the :macm: . I don't like Lake Mead's Marina location - - - although once you are at the marina there is alot to explore. However, it is 15 miles from the lake entrance to Calville Marina, too far to commute 4 days a week because I am now used to short hauls and no traffic from my stint in Mexico. Even if I stay there on the boat a few nights a week, it is 22 miles to a poker game with local suckers and tourists.

Lake Tahoe is WAY TOO COLD for me (and too far a commute).

I truly don't know what to do with the boat??? Keep in mind, I must be in the water in a slip and I am used to going sailing 200+ times a year!!! I cannot continuously rig and rerig the boat on the trailer :!: :!: :!: PU :!: :!: What to do - - - what to do :? :!: It appears to me, though, that Lake Mead may well be my only alternative.

Rick :) :macm:
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Post by Terry »

And to think I thought it sucked here! :P
It may be nice here in the PNW during sailing season, but you'd be hard pressed to get 200+ sailing days a year. Beautiful scenery though. We get lots of rain, lakes always full! If it isn't dead calm then it is blowin gale force like today. It is only sunny with good winds during the week when you are at work. I can't wait to retire. I guess Mexico is not a Canadian snowbird sailors destination either. I never was a big fan of Mexico, got sick there on my only visit. So where in the USA is a good destination for a Canadian to winter in? Can I bring my boat?
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Post by John Christian »

Rick, if the idea of living in MX is still attractive and it's just the sailing you need to improve, consider Guadalara, or more specifically Lake Chapalla. There is a very large Canadian / America retirement community in and around Ajijic. Lake Chapala

The water level fluctuates quite a bit on Chapala, with the lows coming just before the rainy season in June. I've traveled extensively and Guadalara is probably in my top 5 favorite places on the planet. Sailing Chapala is high on my "bucket" list.

But you've gotta like Mexico. GDL is very rich in history and has a growing middle class, but they speak very little english. You need to hablo mucho!

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I pass on Mexico now. We're in Las Vegas (Henderson), looking at a big house in Summerlin, and my Espanol is terrible. Besides the Peso is 13 per dollar now - - - not good.

Rick :) :macm:
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