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- Dimitri-2000X-Tampa
- Admiral
- Posts: 2043
- Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2004 5:36 am
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: Tampa, Florida 2000 Mercury BigFoot 50HP 4-Stroke on 26X hull# 3575.B000
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Frank C
Yeah, a pretty sail, eh?
Nah, never raced. But there would be so many other differences too ... mast rake, vang, outhaul, backstay ...
I can say this much though. The fastest speeds in my boat were in heavier winds with the jib and reefed main. The Genny just adds too much heel in heavier winds. Even when it is reefed, the clew rises on the forestay, so the wind force is higher in the rig.
Nah, never raced. But there would be so many other differences too ... mast rake, vang, outhaul, backstay ...
I can say this much though. The fastest speeds in my boat were in heavier winds with the jib and reefed main. The Genny just adds too much heel in heavier winds. Even when it is reefed, the clew rises on the forestay, so the wind force is higher in the rig.
- Newell
- First Officer
- Posts: 439
- Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:42 pm
- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: Layton, Utah, 96X Fast Sunday, 89D Windancer
Sail costs
Frank,
I also like how your genny looks. I think you have roller furling and I find it interesting that your sheet is under the railing. My 150 is sheeted over the railing with my cars forward. I have moved the sail down onto the furler drum as far as possible and still I have to sheet over the rail.
I also like how your genny looks. I think you have roller furling and I find it interesting that your sheet is under the railing. My 150 is sheeted over the railing with my cars forward. I have moved the sail down onto the furler drum as far as possible and still I have to sheet over the rail.
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Frank C
Re: Sail costs
The UK is a 135, not a 150. Also, it seems to be cut as a sweeper. Eric Lowe observed that it really needs a barberhauler to flatten-out the leech a touch. Trouble is that the BH block would need be mounted to the side of the hull!Newell wrote:Frank,
I also like how your genny looks. I think you have roller furling and I find it interesting that your sheet is under the railing. My 150 is sheeted over the railing with my cars forward. I have moved the sail down onto the furler drum as far as possible and still I have to sheet over the rail.
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vatalon
- Deckhand
- Posts: 47
- Joined: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:25 am
- Location: Prince George, VA 2001 Mac 26x, s/v All The Way
Boy has this thread become confusing! First you ask about macgregorparts.com then it turns into a negative view of Havencraft (the dealership). First, I also have had no response from an order I placed on the macgregorparts site. No return on e-mail requests or on telephone messages. I will never order parts from them again! On to Havencraft. I do not know what the Boat Dealership is like now but I purchased my Mac 26X 01 from Otho Campbell when he was operating out of Richmond/Fredricksburg, Virginia (New Mallinium Sailboats). He treated me fine and was very helpful and responsive to any problems or questions I had befor or after my purchase. Don't assume it is a bad dealership because of one brokered boat. I have been to boatyards in Deltaville, Virginia and the brokered boats have run from pristine to junk. It is really up to the owner as to the condition of the boat that is up for sale.
- Chip Hindes
- Admiral
- Posts: 2166
- Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:13 am
- Location: West Sand Lake, NY '01X, "Nextboat" 50HP Tohatsu
Yes, but sorry, there's absolutely no excuse for the broker to allow the boat to be misrepresented. It's worse if he contributes to the misrepresentaion himself. We're talking a 360 mile six hour round trip here, to find out that a boat which was represented by the broker as a "nice boat" is in fact a piece of junk.vatalon wrote:It is really up to the owner as to the condition of the boat that is up for sale.
There's no reason for a broker not to broker a junk boat, as long as he doesn't describe or allow it to be described by the owner as a "nice boat".
Please don't tell me a broker has no control over these matters. If the broker is not able to come to an agreement with the owner as to how the condition of the boat is to be represented, he can politely tell the owner to find another broker.
In fairness, it appears from the raft of favorable comments concerning Otho and Havencraft, the particular incident I'm describing is an abberration. The crappy condition of Paul's new M on delivery is a second abberration. Everybody is allowed an occasional abberration. As long as these remain abberrations, they (Havencraft) get the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding macgregorparts.com, it appears the rare occasion in which they actually do something right is the abberration.
