New Venture 22 owner

[Cjflyer]

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[Sumner]

Thanks for posting the pictures and welcome to the site . You are in for a good time .

We are starting to look for a Mac/Venture 17 so we have something to sail on the small local lakes. We will be keeping the 26 ,

Sum

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[ChockFullOnuts22]

Congrats on getting your boat!

A few of us here have done overhauls to these V2-22's. Brian Gilbert's book is a good glimpse at what kind of project you're looking at, but I felt like he could have spent a lot more time talking about some things that were lightly mentioned in the book.

Some advice I have about the color of the boat: unless you really want to change the color, and the surfaces are in damaged shape, I would try buffing the gelcoat back to a shine before I tried to paint it. No matter what kind of paint people use, it seems that it will be flaking off in 2-5 years.

One guy on this forum, Pete, did a total overhaul that involved removing the entire topside of the boat (it's held onto the hull by several small nuts and bolts, underneath the rub rail). He would be a great resource in a total overhaul. His boat is newer than yours, though...it has a cast iron keel instead of the steel-encapsulated-in-fiberglass type like the 1972 has. Overhauling the earlier keels is considerably more work and materials. Hopefully yours is in good shape and doesn't give you a whole lot of trouble coming out of the boat...though honestly, that doesn't happen very often.

[wilson]

Chadd,
Good luck with your boat. I have a V222 that I tore apart about as much as you can, including the deck to hull joint. I’m glad I did it, I learned a lot, but I would not do it again. I bought Brian Gilberts book as well, it is good but it is just one of many resources available. I gleaned a lot of info from these boards. Pay close attention to the condition of the wood, both bulkheads and fiberglass core. I had a lot of rot in both areas. One of the many things I learned was how to fiberglass!! Take your time and do it right the first time. I check this and a couple other boards frequently, I would be glad to share my experience if you want it, if not that’s ok to. Good luck
Jeff

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Welcome, Chad

[Cjflyer]

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[ChockFullOnuts22]

Cjflyer,

I'm not seeing your pictures for some reason. (Is anyone else having this problem?)

This board is the place for your build thread. There are quite a few V222 owners who will be happy to check out your thread and answer any questions that you might have along the way.

As far as replacement parts go, you can still get a fair amount of original manufacturer parts from Blue Water Yachts (bwyachts.com). If your chainplate is wrecked (you mentioned a side shroud "anchor"...sounds to me like the chainplate), I know that bwyachts sells replacements ---and they're not expensive. You can probably bend both the chainplate and your mast step back into place, though.

As far as the keel damage....that's probably the fiberglass delaminating from the steel core. It's not a fun job, but you will probably want to drop the keel out of the boat for a thorough inspection. If the damage to the fiberglass is localized in a particular area, you can get away with a localized repair and buy a season or two's worth of time....but eventually you'll end up needing to strip the whole thing down, remove the rust, and re-fiberglass it (save your original pieces to help you recreate the foil shape). During your inspection, look carefully at the welds where the side "plates" of the keel attach to the main center "plate." If you see the sides separating from the center, this is bad news...it means that water got in between the plates and has caused rust that is pushing the plates apart. Slight separation is repairable and isn't the end of the world...a large gap can mean something worse. If you get the boat high off of the trailer, enough to lower the keel most of the way down (if not all the way down), then a quick look at the fiberglass and where the cracks are will hint at what kind of condition the steel core is in, underneath.

Can't wait to see that build thread up and running. Post lots of pictures!

PS--- What's your hull number? My '72 V222 is hull #721.

[Cjflyer]

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[ChockFullOnuts22]

Cjflyer,

Pics are showing up fine for me now...must have been the other computer I was using (office machine...probably some sort of security block). Are you planning on keeping the topside blue?

Yep, the bent "anchor" is your chainplate. The adjustable piece with the holes that the shroud is connected to is your adjuster.

It's hard to say by the single view in that picture, but your keel doesn't look too bad at all. The fiberglass damage on mine was MUCH worse...like whole huge sections of fiberglass missing kind of worse. Even if you had to completely re-do the keel, your core is likely in fine shape. Just make sure that, at the least, you fill existing cracks in the fiberglass as best you can with epoxy or resin. Even a band-aid like that is better than allowing water to continue to seep into any cracks.

Good luck with the restoration of #1226. Have you picked a name for her yet? Did the boat come with one?

[Cjflyer]

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[chefmike]

Dallas craigslist has a mast and boom listing, and a set of sails listing from a Venture 21 priced what i thought was reasonable. I am not affiliatted with or know anything about them I just saw it yesterday while browsing.

[cookwithgas]

Chad:

The first thing I did to my boat was remove the keel. It is super heavy. Getting it out was not too hard - a controlled avalanche. Getting it back in required a little more thought and I built a dolly to hold it in place so I could jack it up inside the recessed area. Here are a few pictures:

Here it is after removal and placing on a workmate (took three strong people to get it up there)


After sanding and painting. (same helpers to flip it over and paint other side)


A dolly made especially for positioning the keel for installation (added a fourth helper for this task)


Did I mention this is super heavy? The pictures don't do the weight of this thing justice. Even with four people, we never actually lifted the whole thing. We just lifted half, then slid stuff under it, then lifted the other half.

While it was out I ordered a new pivot bolt with washers and rubber seals and new winch cable.

Be careful,

Aubrey Scott in Texas

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[Russ]

Nice boat. It needs a little love, but fiberglass is very easy to repair and clean.

Keep us posted as you progress.

--Russ

[chefmike]

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