Almost... Almost Mine!! 2 Weeks!

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Almost... Almost Mine!! 2 Weeks!

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So just to sum up, after 17 years of drooling, saving, giving up, settling on cheaper boats that didn't fill the void, I have found the Mac for me.. The guy was very nice, took us out on the bay and sailed and motored for a while. He even let me hook it up to the Jeep to make sure It could pull it ok. AND he agreed to hold it for me with some cash down until I could get the checks I was expecting and get them cashed.. I have the cash now and am going to go pick it up on the weekend of the 17th. About 4.5 hour drive. Going to make a weekend of it. Friday hand over the cash, go to TPWD and do the title work. Saturday He is taking us out again for a while then back to get it de-rigged for trailering, then driving home Sunday.

SOOO EXCITED!!!

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Re: Almost... Almost Mine!! 2 Weeks!

Post by Buell_S1W »

Exciting times indeed! Congratulations, It's a fine looking boat with what looks like a good strong trailer.
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,....remember to take that mast down before you drive home.... :D
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Nothing like new boat day :D Good for you Kev, fun times ahead 8)
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Nice looking boat and as mentioned, nice looking double axle trailer. Oh yea, ditto on taking the mast down. :)
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Welcome to the club my man!! I just got my X in December and have been cruising ever since....you won't regret it!!

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Thanks! Yeah, the trailer just had new axles, springs bearings and all put on. The only thing I'm concerned about is he didn't put trailer brakes back on. Although he stated he had never stopped hard enough to get them to engage. I guess I'l see how it goes and add them later if I feel they need it. I'm most worried about sway which from reading on here is address by the dual axles.

...wait.. the mast comes down? :D
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Never stopped hard enough that the trailer breaks engaged!? Sounds like you bought your boat from my missus :wink:

But seriously, he lied! The brakes should come on all the time, and you do need em on your trailer!
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Newest owner has to buy the pizza! :P
Kevgrn114 wrote:So just to sum up, after 17 years of drooling, saving, giving up, settling on cheaper boats that didn't fill the void, I have found the Mac for me.. The guy was very nice, took us out on the bay and sailed and motored for a while. He even let me hook it up to the Jeep to make sure It could pull it ok. AND he agreed to hold it for me with some cash down until I could get the checks I was expecting and get them cashed.. I have the cash now and am going to go pick it up on the weekend of the 17th. About 4.5 hour drive. Going to make a weekend of it. Friday hand over the cash, go to TPWD and do the title work. Saturday He is taking us out again for a while then back to get it de-rigged for trailering, then driving home Sunday.

SOOO EXCITED!!!
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Great Looking Boat!

I have that same Tohatsu--you will love it. Fairly quiet, lot of power, reliable, easy on fuel.

Ditto on adding brakes back in; in my mind you are risking a lot towing without them. If it were me, I'd find a much heavier truck to tow it the 4 hours to get it home at least, since you will be relying on the vehicle brakes only.................. Your vehicle will pull it fine, it's the stopping that I'd worry about.

I put a new axle and electric brakes on my X trailer and love it. Wish I had the twin axle, but $$$$$$$$$$$$.

Oh, in addition to lowering the mast, be sure to raise the motor (grin)

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We are taking my wife's SUV to pick it up, same tow rating but it has more power and is heavier.
The hitch of the trailer still has the surge piece attached so I would only need to add the brakes and lines. I was looking at etrailer.com and they don't look to awful for price.. I will likely add them.
Surely it can't be any worse than changing the springs, tie rods, and ball joint on our RV:-)

So if I lower the mast I won't get to catch it on the power lines thus sending me back to the year 1985! And if the motor is up then there won't be any pretty sparks driving down the road! :D
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Kevgrn114 wrote:The hitch of the trailer still has the surge piece attached so I would only need to add the brakes and lines. I was looking at etrailer.com and they don't look to awful for price.. I will likely add them.
Surely it can't be any worse than changing the springs, tie rods, and ball joint on our RV:-)
It's not a difficult project, but if it's the original trailer, the surge coupler was welded to the frame and you would have to cut or grind the welds off to replace it. I mention this because it's a near-certainty that the master cylinder is shot and will also need replacing. When I changed the brakes on mine over to disc, I elected to replace the coupler also. Same make and model (used to be DICO, now it's Titan, but can't tell them apart), so I ground off the welds, drilled two holes, and bolted the new coupler on. The cost of parts to rebuild the coupler was almost as much as a new coupler, so I went with all new, and being bolted on now, I can remove it for service if needed. From the pictures, it looks like yours is the same (DICO/Titan), but replaced at some time, as it's not painted black.

The kit I got from etrailer included discs/rotors, backing plates, calipers, brake lines (rigid and flex), coupler with solenoid lockout valve, bearings, seals, and caps. Everything needed was in the box. I should have put brakes on both axles, to make it legal in states that require it, and it's cheaper to buy the kit for all four wheels rather than buying the second axle parts later, but I didn't, so for now, that's how it is. It stops nicely with brakes on just the rear axle, and I can easily tell the difference when I lock out the brakes intentionally to test it (electric solenoid, so you can back it up).

This is what I used. http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brakes/ ... 43100.html

This is what I wish I'd used. http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brakes/ ... 43200.html

Hopefully, your axles have the flanges with the 4-bolt pattern for drum backing plates or caliper mounting brackets (same bolt pattern) on them.

The boat looks like it's in really nice condition, by the way. It's a fun boat to own. My son learned to wakeboard behind ours (50 hp Honda), and I still get to sail, which I much prefer over motoring, but the whole idea when we downsized to this boat is that it has something for everyone, and I can take it to places that were either impossible (land-locked finger lakes), or very time consuming (canal-accessable finger lakes, Thousand Islands region) to get to with a keel boat.

Be patient with rigging for transport and setting up at a ramp. It takes a long time to do, but the more you do it, and the more you read here on time saving techniques, the faster it gets. Like actually sailing this boat (and docking it), it's unique, and takes some learning to get used to. But it's worth it in the end.

Congrat's.
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Kevgrn114 wrote:Thanks! Yeah, the trailer just had new axles, springs bearings and all put on. The only thing I'm concerned about is he didn't put trailer brakes back on. Although he stated he had never stopped hard enough to get them to engage. I guess I'l see how it goes and add them later if I feel they need it. I'm most worried about sway which from reading on here is address by the dual axles.

...wait.. the mast comes down? :D
I have a dual axle.... it can still sway, it all depends how you load the boat (CG over the wheels). The more weight you tow the more important breaks are, and adding an extra axle just added at least 300 lbs to your tow weight. You need breaks. The surge breaks work best, they automatically slow the trailer down when ever it tries to push against the tow vehicle- like when your going down any incline hill on the highway. I would list adding breaks as your number one thing to do.
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Kevgrn114 wrote:Although he stated he had never stopped hard enough to get them to engage.
Since they engage automatically, it's hard to know if/when they engage. They just happen and you wouldn't know it. Well, unless they don't and the rig pushes your tow vehicle ahead.

I believe some states require brakes by law. Should be an easy thing to change.
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RussMT wrote:
Kevgrn114 wrote:Since they engage automatically, it's hard to know if/when they engage.
Quite often whet I rig and raise the mast in the lot just before backing down the ramp, I will unplug my trailer wiring. It never fails to catch me by surprise when the trailer brakes lock-up while backing toward the ramp and I am caught by surprise and say to myself WTF? :wink:
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