A Sub 60 Minute Rig and De-rig System

[Tomfoolery]

Tkanzler, you solved a big problem I have just been putting up with. How did you cut the pieces round, and of the right diameters?

Here you go.

http://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/v ... =8&t=20760

[MAC-A-TAC]

Hello,

I wanted to post a video of the system in action today, but the weather here in eastern NC has not been cooperating. The best I can do right now is to take a short video that shows what the system looks like (see link below). I will post another video by next weekend 8/17/2012 showing the system in action.
http://youtu.be/jSSgz3KN0iQ

[Erik Hardtle]

Mac-A-Tac... you mentioned that you are in Eastern NC.... I am in New Bern... Where are u?

[MAC-A-TAC]

Just finished taking a video of the system in action today at 4:00pm EST, I'm in the process of downloading it to youtube now. The video shows me fully rigging my 26M in 46 minutes, so this is a long video and it will be finished downloading to youtube around 9:30pm EST tonight; I will post the link as soon as its finished. Keep in mind this is only the second time I've used the system and the first time it took me 54 minutes to rig.

The video demonstrates how the Genoa bracket system increases the efficiency, speed, and safety of rigging a 26M, but you be the judge .

MAC Out.

[MAC-A-TAC]

The link will take you to the video showing the rig and de-rig system in action. Keep in mind that this is a "full" rigging of dock lines, fenders etc... Notice how the Genoa brackets keep the Genoa stowed in a straight line along with all the shrouds;there is no bending or kinking of the luff and shrouds with this system.
Enjoy the show
http://youtu.be/M-_nZHjg1tM

MAC Out.

[133bhp]

I'm halfway thorugh it, finsh viweing later. but well done for posting. There a lack of rigging vids, also launching and retriving. Its what you need as a newb, guess we're all a bit shy of our techniques or something?

My rigging from scrtach is well into the hour mark I would have thought? Vid is a good idea as If not doing regulary I forgot what I did/order? Too busy typically and/or have an audience to use a checklist!

Do a launch and retrive next.

[MAC-A-TAC]

Hello 133bhp,

I am all about making things easier when it comes to rigging and de-rigging and this is the best method for me. I wouldn't mind doing a launch and retrieval now since my wife and I have a few under are belts. Maybe I should have taken a video of our first few launches since we all could use a good laugh and realize that we all struggle at first.

MAC Out.

[K9Kampers]

Thanks for posting the vid... now I know what you meant by 'genoa bracket'.

The more you rig & de-rig, you wil experience aha moments by finding effort / time saving ways to make the process easier / faster. Toss the checklist so you can 'see' and analyze the process for yourself.

In the video, the Genoa Braket System Equals Speedy Rigging as it is called in the other thread, is anything but, IMHO. The video shows that dealing with the genoa brackets adds (wastes) 9.5 minutes to accomplish the same thing that can be done without. Another time waster is the 6.5 minutes spent needlessly futzing with lines. At 21:00 in video, leave the MRP on the boat, as you may need it on the water someday.... (toss the gen brackets overboard tho)
This 40 minute setup could easily have been a 25 minute setup. After 20 or so riggings, take another video to see / analyze your improvement.

Some hints that I employ:

Gradually changing threaded hardware over to quick pins and snap shackles saves a lot of time.

Plan a process that reduces the number of back & forth / below/abovedeck trips.

Docklines can be left cleated all the time, or at least store the bow line in the anchor locker.

I recently have started leaving the MRP & baby stays attached while trailering after de-rigging so they are at the ready for the next rigging. While sailing, I prefer to remove and have them belowdeck.

( I really liked the simplicity of your lazyjack setup at 33:00... this is a mod that I've yet to do.)

[MAC-A-TAC]

Hello K9Kampers,

I am really starting to appreciate what this system does with regards to keeping the sails, shrouds, and lines both neat and in good shape. This is really an efficient system for me and I enjoy not have lines and shrouds laying about the deck while rigging. There are other ways to set up the Mac for rigging, but none that I have read about or used have maintained all the shrouds, sails, and lines as well as this one IMHO.

Each of us has a standard to which we bring our boats to when we are finished playing with them and I enjoy making MAC-A-TAC look well organized, that is why I coil all the lines when finished.

I have thought about leaving my mast raising system on, but I try to leave as little gear exposed to the elements as possible to stretch the MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure).

Thanks for the tips. My goal is to be at 30 minutes with my current system.

You mentioned keeping the mast raising system on board, which is what I used to do, but I have not had a need to use it on the water in my area. What do you foresee using the system for while on the water in your area?

MAC Out.

[Ormonddude]

Maybe its just my small screen but I didnt really see the aft stay unless I am showing my ignorance and use 3 point rigging but i thought the side stays would be further back in that case? Thank you for the Video it just leaves me scratching my head a bit.

[K9Kampers]

You mentioned keeping the mast raising system on board, which is what I used to do, but I have not had a need to use it on the water in my area. What do you foresee using the system for while on the water in your area?

I've used the MRS on the water several times when I want to de-rig before getting to the (busy) docks for haulout. I've done so many times either while anchored or while drifting on a calm day. Once while overnighting in an anchorage, a thick fog had descended upon the area by sunrise. While waiting for the fog to burn off, I decided to install the radar reflector and the only way to reach the mounting location was to lower the mast, at anchor. Also, if I ever need to replace nav lights or make a repair, etc., on the water...
I've always kept my MRS onboard because it's parts of the boat. Unloading & reloading boat stuff from boat to tow beast and back again adds unnecessary steps / effort. Same for the (X) mast crutch. I store them all with paddle & whatever long stuff in the port basement (aft berth).

[K9Kampers]

Maybe its just my small screen but I didnt really see the aft stay unless I am showing my ignorance and use 3 point rigging but i thought the side stays would be further back in that case? Thank you for the Video it just leaves me scratching my head a bit.

The doesn't have a backstay.

[Ormonddude]

OK if thats the case i would love this with a using a Mast raising pulley because I dont like original system at all

[DaveB]

I have the M gin pole for my MacX and find it to overweight and overbuilt to raise the Mast.
A pully gin pole would work just as well with cam. The M pole weighs about 40 lbs and only advatage is it has a brake on the winch that allows you to stop and adjust any hangups on rigging. If you are single handed this will help .
I just feel the weight and system could be much better with a one gin pole with a 3 to 1 pully back to cocpit.
The M system to opperate requires a weak pinky finger. It's that simple and overbuilt.
Dave

OK if thats the case i would love this with a using a Mast raising pulley because I dont like original system at all

[raycarlson]

40 pounds, my god you must have chosen the lead-iron option.My MRP for the 2008 model year weighs in at a whooping 11 pounds. it is over built though,but can't complain about that.