Running Rigging on Venture

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Captain_Kirk
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Running Rigging on Venture

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Can someone help me with the running rigging layout on my Venture 2-24?

I've set it up once with the jib and the main and would like to think I had it set up correctly. For the jib I just passed the sheets through the blocks on the front sides of the cabin, through the fairleads on the deck (below the windows), and then back to the winches and can be secured in place with the cam cleats located just aft of the winch. However, this configuration, if correct seems to be leaving out a ton of other hardware located on my deck. I received a genoa with my boat so I figure some of it is most likely for that although I know nothing about genoa rigging yet. I know you use the tracks located just aft of the cabin on the port and starboard side with genoa cars, but I'm without cars at the moment.

Here are the pictures of my deck's layout:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99060202@N ... 074172137/

I'm clueless about the purpose of the cheek blocks (located port and starboard of the mast), the spring stand-up blocks (located port and starboard of the mast), the cam cleats on the sides of the rear cabin, and also not pictured is a micro block on an eyestrap just aft of the forward hatch. That micro block is also broken so I'm not sure whether or not I will need to replace it or not. The micro block is a Harken 225: (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/st ... gxf3ZLqmFk), if that clarifies its purpose.

I'm sure I could look up rigging, but I will find so many different rigging styles in the process. I figured I'd ask the veterans about how my particular boat is set up.

Any help or resources would be truly appreciated.
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Could the extra blocks be to run the halyards to the cockpit? Some people swear by that setup, while others swear at it.

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A pic or two of the entire deck, taken from the cockpit, would help, as it would show the relative positions of everything from the POV of the helm.

But a few things that come to mind. Near the stern, the loop and SS wear guard are probably for a spinnaker sheet. Either passed directly through the loop, or more with a block attached to the padeye, but from the arrangement of the cam cleat, which looks like it's aimed right at the center, they passed the sheet through the pad eye and to the cam cleat directly.

The cheek and spring stand-ups on the roof are for halyards, back to the fairleads and cam cleats at the forward end of the cockpit.

Can't really tell about the other stuff without seeing the whole arrangement from further back, as I can't figure out the relative positions of items between the different shots.
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chipveres wrote:Could the extra blocks be to run the halyards to the cockpit? Some people swear by that setup, while others swear at it.

Chip V.

I'm not sure. It's possible. I notice the one cam cleat on the aft starboard side of the cabin must be for a halyard line, not sure what else would go there.

tkanzler wrote:A pic or two of the entire deck, taken from the cockpit, would help, as it would show the relative positions of everything from the POV of the helm.
I wish I had that available, but I don't. These pictures were from when I first got the boat and were more for documenting where everything goes when I go about reinstalling them. Currently the entire deck is bare while I paint.

But a few things that come to mind. Near the stern, the loop and SS wear guard are probably for a spinnaker sheet. Either passed directly through the loop, or more with a block attached to the padeye, but from the arrangement of the cam cleat, which looks like it's aimed right at the center, they passed the sheet through the pad eye and to the cam cleat directly.


That would make sense. I wasn't really sure what those pad eyes were for or the cam cleats back there. Too bad the boat didn't come with the spinnaker.

The cheek and spring stand-ups on the roof are for halyards, back to the fairleads and cam cleats at the forward end of the cockpit.
Ah, that would make sense. I had a feeling that was probably it, but wasn't quite sure.
Can't really tell about the other stuff without seeing the whole arrangement from further back, as I can't figure out the relative positions of items between the different shots.
That's understandable. The pictures are pretty disjointed, but the best I have available from when everything was attached. I think your descriptions have already cleared of up the majority of things that were a mystery to me before. Any idea what the small micro block attached to a eye strap aft of the front hatch might do?
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Re: Running Rigging on Venture

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Captain_Kirk wrote:Any idea what the small micro block attached to a eye strap aft of the front hatch might do?
Oh, yeah - I meant to speak to that. My guess is a furler line. Did the boat have a roller furler for the head sail? If not, it could be for a downhaul for the head sail.
"also not pictured is a micro block on an eyestrap just aft of the forward hatch. That micro block is also broken so I'm not sure whether or not I will need to replace it or not. The micro block is a Harken 225"
Aft of the forward hatch - that wouldn't be for the furler, then. Maybe a barber hauler? Small block for that, but without seeing where its mounted, I'm out of guesses. :?
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I was just thinking about this, but when I got my boat and I refinished the tiller it had a few little holes in it and someone mentioned that it looked like it once had an auto tiller attached to it. Do you think the pad eye, rub rail, and the cam cleat arrangement on the port and starboard side of the cockpit could have been used for that?
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Captain_Kirk wrote:I was just thinking about this, but when I got my boat and I refinished the tiller it had a few little holes in it and someone mentioned that it looked like it once had an auto tiller attached to it. Do you think the pad eye, rub rail, and the cam cleat arrangement on the port and starboard side of the cockpit could have been used for that?
The pad eyes are part of the the original very simple jib sheet arrangement. The rest of that appears to be gone.

You, my man, have a heavily modified V224 - not much of the original running stuff is there or in use. A lot of hardware was added. Someone changed all of it to suit their needs - a lot can happen in 40 years.

Since you are not sailing this boat yet - and are in the restoration phase - I wouldn't feel bound by the mods a PO made. You might want to consider wiping it clean and setting up how YOU want it. A lot of the hardware there is fully usable.

So what I would do if I were you:

Decide what you want - and then change the arrangement to suit you. Some of it I would keep perhaps - some of it not or moved to a different spot.

Do you plan to single hand?
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topcat0399 wrote:
Captain_Kirk wrote:I was just thinking about this, but when I got my boat and I refinished the tiller it had a few little holes in it and someone mentioned that it looked like it once had an auto tiller attached to it. Do you think the pad eye, rub rail, and the cam cleat arrangement on the port and starboard side of the cockpit could have been used for that?
The pad eyes are part of the the original very simple jib sheet arrangement. The rest of that appears to be gone.

You, my man, have a heavily modified V224 - not much of the original running stuff is there or in use. A lot of hardware was added. Someone changed all of it to suit their needs - a lot can happen in 40 years.

Since you are not sailing this boat yet - and are in the restoration phase - I wouldn't feel bound by the mods a PO made. You might want to consider wiping it clean and setting up how YOU want it. A lot of the hardware there is fully usable.

So what I would do if I were you:

Decide what you want - and then change the arrangement to suit you. Some of it I would keep perhaps - some of it not or moved to a different spot.

Do you plan to single hand?

I think I might do single handed sailing, but I think I'll generally have at least one other person with me. I'm brand new to sailing. The only thing I've sailed so far is a Force 5 and that was only for around an hour so I'm not sure which rigging would be useful to keep and which would be useful to change. I've actually already painted the deck so I'll probably keep everything where it was, but I'd be happy to hear any advice on rigging the V224 you might have. Do you have any rigging pictures of your boat?

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