New (to me) Mac22 - So here I am!

[GoolGaul]

Hey everyone!

Been lurking for about 2 weeks now, soaking up as much info as I can...

I'm Paul from Massapequa NY - the south shore of Long Island. I have been sailing Sunfishes, Surfwinds (Sear's version of the Sunfish) and Hobie Cats since I was 7. I actually won a few regattas, my first when I was 9. The youngest sailor to win on that lake...
I'm 46 now, and I just was gifted with a Mac22 - maybe a Venture22 though, I'm not too sure - and this is my first boat with more than a mainsail, and will be my first boat on anything other than a lake. I plan on sailing the Great South Bay and the L.I. Sound.

So I have been pressure washing the last 6 years of neglect and uncovered storage. I am pleasantly surprised how white the topside is coming out.

Here are my observations:
1) with the exception a locking cam-block (for the mainsail boom rigging) all the rigging seems to be in place. A few blocks have damaged pulleys, though.
2) the keel winch is seized, and the keel itself seems to be in sad shape - just the leading edge is visible, and I can see some rust/rot.
3) the windows need to be replaced.
4) The tiller needs some rebuilding - the top half has a few cracks, but the bottom half and all the hardware seem fine.
5) The interior is in great shape! but needs an update...
6) the paint is very dull and RED
7) The Jibsail is not stock, and has a furler tube(?) with a reel for a lead to furl the jib. There is some rigging hardware in place for running the jib furl lead to the cockpit, based on other pics I've seen.
I'm DYING to get this vessel out on the water before the season ends!

Here's my plan:
1) get it out on the water ASAP, so I can see what else needs to be done. For the most part, I will drop the keel and see if I can repair it, if it even needs it.
2) strip all the hardware off, and paint the topside white. I may go with some AwlGrip on the textured spots. possibly blue or black. Maybe not black, because of the heat that will transfer into the cabin.
3) replace the transom block, where a jackplate will go for the motor (probably going to be a 20 longshaft, as my buddy has one that he'll hook me up with)
4) repaint the bottom with antifouling paint
5) repaint the rest of the hull BLUE! - looks I've seen pics of this ride in blue, and it looks NICE!
6) add some blocks and a camlock to get the mainsail halyard back to the cockpit for eventual singlehanding.
7) replace the wood tracks for the entryway panel and the top slider hatch, with HDPE - looks nice and should last for decades.
gas strut pop-top lifters
9) I'll let the wife do what she will on the interior... I might help a bit.

I'll put up some pics - cockpit POV and closeups of anything I don't understand, after I'm am done removing the neglect, but before I start asking 1000 questions.

Been reading up, and I am comfortable with the rigging plan - seems mostly stock.

I do have a quick question for the moment:
From the masthead, there are 2 aircraft cables on the aft side. one is obviously the aft mainstay (?) but the other is somewhat shorter, and has a funky clip on the end. could that 2nd line go to the end of the boom? If so, is it just for standing rigging or for running as well? I think it's just to hold the boom up while setting up the mast and mainsail, and possibly for when the main is reefed.

Also, if there is anyone in my area, I'd love to have a more experienced sailor join me for a shakedown cruise or be able to scope out a different (or similar) setup.
I'll supply the beer, the brunch, and the boat.

Thanks in advance, I'm looking forward to a great time and a big dose of know-how here on this forum.

[GoolGaul]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention:

I have a 3D printer, and I already have printed 3 parts for the boat...

If anyone needs anything, feel free to shout out.

[WASP18]

Here's a book about a 1972 MacGregor Venture 22 that was completely fixed-up by Brian Gilbert the author after he purchased it for $500. It was in tough shape. He goes into great detail and he's an excellent writer. Sounds like exactly what you need. I have his book "The Complete Trailer Sailor" and also recommend it. Check out the reviews.

http://www.amazon.com/Fix-Sail-Everythi ... 0071458093

[kmclemore]

I have a 3D printer, and I already have printed 3 parts for the boat...

What parts did you print, and out of what material(s)?

[GoolGaul]

I printed a top cap for the jib furl tube - the bow mainstay cable slid into the tube, and was a pain to retrieve, so i made a 2-piece cap, that has a reinforced hole in the center for the cable, and a flange that keeps the cap from sliding into the tube as well.

Also printed a mount for a Windex, and a housing for a masthead LED light for anchoring, but I think I have to re-design those 2 into a single unit. they just look like they won't sit right on the masthead...

My printer can print with ABS, or PLA, but I prefer ABS which I have in a variety of colors. I have a 6"x 6"x 6" build volume. The density is fully controllable, from 5% fill to 100% solid plastic.

I can print parts from Google Sketchup, and almost any CAD program that exports .STL files.

Gonna try printing a pulley soon, but I still have to improve my smoothing rig (acetone vapor bath)

some of my work: www.facebook.com/litimeclocks

[Catigale]

Welcome aboard, and good luck ith that project !

Be careful dropping that keel, it weighs 500 pounds! Rust is typical on the keels, hopefully it sent too jammed in the trunk to come down.

[chipveres]

The keel winch is by Dutton-Lainson and is available at Northern Tools. You will need to drill one hole in the winch, and possibly put the old handle on the new winch. Please do be careful lowering, I've heard that keel weighs as much as 800 pounds depending on your exact combination of cast iron and/or fiberglass.

Chip V.

[81venture]

I printed a top cap for the jib furl tube - the bow mainstay cable slid into the tube, and was a pain to retrieve, so i made a 2-piece cap, that has a reinforced hole in the center for the cable, and a flange that keeps the cap from sliding into the tube as well.

Also printed a mount for a Windex, and a housing for a masthead LED light for anchoring, but I think I have to re-design those 2 into a single unit. they just look like they won't sit right on the masthead...

My printer can print with ABS, or PLA, but I prefer ABS which I have in a variety of colors. I have a 6"x 6"x 6" build volume. The density is fully controllable, from 5% fill to 100% solid plastic.

I can print parts from Google Sketchup, and almost any CAD program that exports .STL files.

Gonna try printing a pulley soon, but I still have to improve my smoothing rig (acetone vapor bath)

some of my work: http://www.facebook.com/litimeclocks

i say Get a bigger printer and print yourself a new keel and rudder

Sorry, couldn't help myself

[GoolGaul]

I sure wish I did have a bigger printer!

I am already working on a few more parts: spreader bar caps with integrated running LEDs, clips to hold the cabin hatch open, a mount for my Garmin 440 GPS, recessed cup holders - with a nipple for drainage, a cockpit drainage "thingy", and form-fitting bow headlights.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... a pair of nice 3-D Skull and Crossbones plaques to be mounted topside, port and starboard... One does want to express one's intentions properly

RE: my keel - I got a better look at it, it looks pretty bad. Not sure what to do with it... I'll be dropping it this weekend - after making (not printing) some stands for the boat, so I can back it off the trailer and drop that rusted and rotted nightmare. Probably going to make carriages like in one of the modifications shown for a 26...

But so far, the keel is the absolute worst of this free diamond in the rough.

[bobbieaw]

Congratulations on The Mac 22!

I just finished a rework of my keel in a Mac 21. I surfed the web a bit (including this site) then built a cradle used a car jack and set it down. Mounted some wheels on the cradle then took it to a local body shop for sandblasting.....cost $100. If you were closer, I would let you use cradle and then worlds largest saw horses which held the boat off the trailer. Coated the new looking cast iron keel with epoxy with west system barrier coat additive. Epoxy was "Raka" brand as all projects in the past were cheaper with a better product using Raka (less blushing to deal with).

So...if you have the solid keel all is not lost. They are heavy but with cheap hydraulic car jack it is possible. I used the same car jack to lower tongue to the floor, place saw-horse looking block under the rear, then lift as high as possible to sling bow with a strap. pulled the trailer out, and the rest was history. This is the web-site which had the best pictures of removing a boat from the trailer....

http://people.umass.edu/mlbosco/beci.html

Why have original thinking when someone else has thought it already Enjoy the process....and now I need to go put the final epoxy coats on my lower rudder replacement which has a trolling motor (sail drive like) embedded between to boards making a hopefully seamless easier electric power unit....Scott

[Catigale]

That link is cool, but using concrete blocks as shown is manifestly unsafe and bad practice.

Block with solid brick or wood but not those blocks, especially if they have been exposed to the elements.

[GoolGaul]

... using concrete blocks as shown is manifestly unsafe and bad practice.

Block with solid brick or wood but not those blocks, especially if they have been exposed to the elements.

Agreed. besides, I do plan on having this boat for a while, so it would be good to have something long-term for getting the boat off the trailer - paint every few years, and such. On the upside, I can haul light boats for people. Maybe make a few bucks.

I'm going to build something with 6x6's.

[bobbieaw]

Should have mentioned the blocks were a bad idea I made my supports out of 6X6's both front and back, again they looked like the worlds toughest saw horses. I even left the boat in the strap sling in the garage in the 6X6 overhead lift point. More safety is always better! I liked the series of pictures for showing the process...again it is easier to steal something than make it up on your own!...Scott