sailing from Shanghai to Sanya

[enyacc]

Hi,
We are preparing a sailing trip from shanghai to Sanya in China this march. We have two Mac26M. It is about 1200 NM. Lots islands on the way. So pretty easy for re-fueling and provision. We expect it will be 12 days journey. Maybe some extra days stopover if we find any interesting island.
Any suggestion for long journey with mac26? of course it's not a non-stop voyage. Specially we need some advise about carry extra jerrycan. Usually we could carry 50L gasoline which are 2 tanks under the cockpit seats. We plan to carry extra 4 jerry cans which is 80L more gasoline. So for 130L gas, it's more than enough for 100 NM leg.

Fons

[innervations]

If you have etech outboard take extra 2stoke oil as it could be hard to get the correct type for this engine.

[yukonbob]

Hi,
We are preparing a sailing trip from shanghai to Sanya in China this march. We have two Mac26M. It is about 1200 NM. Lots islands on the way. So pretty easy for re-fueling and provision. We expect it will be 12 days journey. Maybe some extra days stopover if we find any interesting island.
Any suggestion for long journey with mac26? of course it's not a non-stop voyage. Specially we need some advise about carry extra jerrycan. Usually we could carry 50L gasoline which are 2 tanks under the cockpit seats. We plan to carry extra 4 jerry cans which is 80L more gasoline. So for 130L gas, it's more than enough for 100 NM leg.

Fons

Depends on tides, weather. Also 100nm a day can make for longs days. Especially 12 in a row. For 100nm in between fill up's I'll keep 115L on board and thats with a 20-30L contingency and cruising at 7.5kts so with the extra fuel you'll have you can probably go a little faster otherwise you'll be looking at 14 hour days from staring to stopping the engine. Tides and weather can increase the time/fuel consumption or decrease the distance very easily. If you're looking for a family vacation I'd halve the distance or double the time. An adventure with some buddies…pull some all nighters to make up time and give-r-sh*t!

[Herschel]

100nm a day can make for longs days. Especially 12 in a row

I know there are Mac owners out there who have done long trips like this. I am not one of them, however. My longest trips have been 300 miles and 96 miles, respectively. Both of those were in Florida waters in the spring. My experience with my trips is that weather and morale (for lack of a better word) play as large a factor as the logistics. Even in coastal waters the weather can become a major factor on the desirability and feasibility of a good day's transit and, in particular, whether you can sail or need to motor. Having some flexibility to avoid really bad weather seems desirable from my perspective. As to the pace of a trip, my wife and I, generally, enjoyed it best when we could "steam" for about three days, and then, take a day or two off. We prefer to stay at marinas so we can get ashore for meals at restaurants and do a little sightseeing and get some exercise. It is even nice to work in a night or two at a motel, as well. Of course, it depends an awful lot on what you like doing and how much of a quest you want to make the trip. but even at that, 12 days at 100 nm a day seems...ambitious!

[mastreb]

You cannot make 100nm a day consistently. You would be powering at full speed each day and running out of gas each day. It would be exhausting and your refuels would have to be perfectly positioned every 100nm. It's not at all relaxing, it would be more like a drive across country just to get somewhere. Plus you have to re-oil every day with an ETEC-60.

Having done this, I say 30nm is a reasonable daily maximum.

I recommend spending more time with your boat and doing a couple of day trips to see what your personal tolerance actually is, and then plan more conservatively.

Matt

[Tony E]

The most I have done in a a day is 30 miles and by the end of that day it felt like I was at work and not out sailing. I did a one week sailboat trip on a huge lake up north and the total miles sailed was probably just over 120 as we stopped in at bays and had some days where we only put on a few miles. When you start saying that you have to put on this many miles to get to point A, so the next day you can get to point B, then its not as fun and yes then its like driving across Canada just to get to the destination of Halifax and who cares whats in between. I'd plan to take more time so that you can go slower and both you, along with your boat and your motor will enjoy it more. That's why i bought a sailboat in the first place...to slow down life and enjoy it

[enyacc]

hi my fellow sailors,
i have done some long voyages on different sailing boat. of course bigger than mac26. And i don't intend to motor everyday. In earlier march, there is still fair Northerly trade wind along chinese coast. So should be ok for average 4kn downwind sailing speed. the 130L fuel plan actually is for at least 300 NM leg. But just to consider if there is very calm or gale condition. Motoring for 1000 NM is suicide.

[enyacc]

planning motoring 3 hours per day for recharge the battery. my yamaha OB alternator isn't powerful enough.

[yukonbob]

We regularly do 90mn (one way or return depending where we go) in a day to go fishing. I’d be purchasing a solar panel rather than completely relying on your motor to charge your batteries, especially with a 300nm leg with no services. You’ll be completely reliant on the weather for that leg with little room for error.

[Herschel]

should be ok for average 4kn downwind sailing speed

I think I misunderstood your schedule. My wife and I do not attempt night sailing in our coastal or river waters except for when we are late getting back to the marina and come in after dark. I was thinking you would be stopping each night and trying to do 100nm during the day. It appears to me now that you are planning on sailing overnight with motor back up, if winds don't give you the desired range. Could you clarify if that is your plan?

[enyacc]

should be ok for average 4kn downwind sailing speed

I think I misunderstood your schedule. My wife and I do not attempt night sailing in our coastal or river waters except for when we are late getting back to the marina and come in after dark. I was thinking you would be stopping each night and trying to do 100nm during the day. It appears to me now that you are planning on sailing overnight with motor back up, if winds don't give you the desired range. Could you clarify if that is your plan?

it's true, we will do 2-3 nights sailing in one leg. and expecting 100 nm per day. there will be a day rest and re-supply between the legs.

[enyacc]

We regularly do 90mn (one way or return depending where we go) in a day to go fishing. I’d be purchasing a solar panel rather than completely relying on your motor to charge your batteries, especially with a 300nm leg with no services. You’ll be completely reliant on the weather for that leg with little room for error.

hi,
I have a small solar panel which could re-fill battery a little bit. usually it keeps battery floating-charge when it is mooring. but not enough to real charge a battery. Do you think the OB isn't that reliable for continuous running? well just only 3 hours per day in 2500-3000RPM. Also we already plan to replace all lights by LED. So it can significant reduce power consumption. Also there is no autopilot, only hand helm So we hope we just use around 30AH per day, mainly for the navigation and communication equipments.

[yukonbob]

We regularly do 90mn (one way or return depending where we go) in a day to go fishing. I’d be purchasing a solar panel rather than completely relying on your motor to charge your batteries, especially with a 300nm leg with no services. You’ll be completely reliant on the weather for that leg with little room for error.

hi,
I have a small solar panel which could re-fill battery a little bit. usually it keeps battery floating-charge when it is mooring. but not enough to real charge a battery. Do you think the OB isn't that reliable for continuous running? well just only 3 hours per day in 2500-3000RPM. Also we already plan to replace all lights by LED. So it can significant reduce power consumption. Also there is no autopilot, only hand helm So we hope we just use around 30AH per day, mainly for the navigation and communication equipments.

Nothing to do with your OB. With two boats I'd be using my handheld VHF for com, and if I were in an area where there was deep open water with no shoals or reefs i'd run off charts for several hours at a time (good practice anyways) or a handheld GPS and leave the Chart plotter off and try to reduce the load on your batteries to zero if possible, while trickle charging with your solar panel.
Running at 3 hours a day for the three-four days it will take to make the 300nm leg thats 9-12 hours and thats a big portion of your fuel. I'd be looking at that leg a little closer, with enough fuel and small reserve for say 130-150nm you'll be relying on wind and weather for the remaining 170nm, theres very little wiggle room there and could easily eat up more than a week. I've done legs that are longer than our fuel reserves but I try and keep it to 2/3 gas 1/3 sailing ratio. 170 sailing miles is a very long way in 5kt winds.

[cptron]

to solve the fuel problem I strapped a decking board to the stanchions on each side to the top deck. This way I can lash extra 5 gallon cans of gas so don't have to worry about running out. This also gives me a place to lash extra 5 gal cans of fresh water just in case we don't or can't find a place to refuel or shower.

[kurz]

to solve the fuel problem I strapped a decking board to the stanchions on each side to the top deck. This way I can lash extra 5 gallon cans of gas so don't have to worry about running out. This also gives me a place to lash extra 5 gal cans of fresh water just in case we don't or can't find a place to refuel or shower.

sorry my English is not too good to understand correctly how you fix the cans, do you have a Photo? Thanks