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Re: In the water tomorrow after too many years out of it...

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BOAT wrote:I HATE those mosquitoes!! I have never seen so many mosquitoes in my life than what came at me in Florida - Pine Island was the worst and Fort Meyers. I just don't know how those people can live with all those mosquitoes - I could never live there.
My son is a minor league ball player, and this is how he addressed the gnats in Cedar Rapids (Kernels) last summer. It was hot, but the gnats give him the heebie-jeebies, same as me. And they will completely cover any bloody area, like from sliding.

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He spent the second half of the season in Ft. Myers playing for the Miracle. In the summer. With the mosquitoes. I don't know how he does it. Honestly. :?

He's there now, for spring training. I'll have to ask him about the mosquitoes. :wink:
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with today's run being almost 45 miles. I plan on getting up early and getting out into the Gulf and head 35-40 miles on down to Marco Island off-shore.
a day of just resting would probably do me good. I tend to plod ahead sometimes when I shouldn't of so this is also a lesson in patience for me so when I get to the east coast I'm patient about crossing the Gulf Stream.
Aside from feeling a little under the weather sounds like a great start to the trip and you are finding your rhythm.

Last night lots of connections but none open so used the trackphone hotspot I bought
Are you using a tracfone direct or do you have it tethered to your computer?
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Tomfoolery wrote:
BOAT wrote:I HATE those mosquitoes!! I have never seen so many mosquitoes in my life than what came at me in Florida - Pine Island was the worst and Fort Meyers. I just don't know how those people can live with all those mosquitoes - I could never live there.
My son is a minor league ball player, and this is how he addressed the gnats in Cedar Rapids (Kernels) last summer. It was hot, but the gnats give him the heebie-jeebies, same as me. And they will completely cover any bloody area, like from sliding.

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He spent the second half of the season in Ft. Myers playing for the Miracle. In the summer. With the mosquitoes. I don't know how he does it. Honestly. :?

He's there now, for spring training. I'll have to ask him about the mosquitoes. :wink:

We need to get him signed up with the Padres RIGHT NOW!!
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Seapup wrote:....Are you using a tracfone direct or do you have it tethered to your computer?
I'm using...

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.... the Straight Talk WiFi Mobile HotSpot shown above (it is a lot smaller than pictured about 2"x2"). Bought it from Walmart and got the first plan from them but now I'm on auto-renew. $50 for 5 GB but that can be over 2 months. No watching netflix on it as it would get up the 5 gigs too fast but for getting on the forums and other things it works well so should cost about $25 a month for how I want to use it, forums and banking mostly. I can connect to it with the laptop or the netbook with their radios. On the boat the computer I made doesn't have a radio (it could) but is connected to the long distance Bullet 2HP radio so connect to the HotSpot with that.

It uses Verizon towers so only internet where you have a connection with their tower. I had a Virgin Mobil smart phone and had it tethered to the computer but I think if they found out they could cancel me. I finally dumped them and now have an android phone with Net10 that also uses Virizon towers as that is what is at home and I got a Utah number for it. I won't try tethering it since I have the hotspot but can get on the internet with it easily. With the HotSpot if I do go over the data limit before the 2 months I can just buy 5 gigs more. So far I like it but it once wouldn't let me connect and I had to call and they fixed it. I've read that if you don't use it weekly that can happen but not sure if that is right. Of course none of these are going to work if I get to the Bahamas. I doubt I'll buy a phone there but hope to get on the internet some there. I'm probably going to sign up with Skype and pay the $3.00 a month so that I could call land lines here (if I understand that process -- anyone use it outside the county??).

The winds here today have been up to 18 with 23 gusts according to NOAA, now they are revising tomorrow for the same but just a bit ago a blue Mac M went by and went out. Not sure it they were going to sail or not. I'm better organized so leaving in the morning unless they predict a lot worst. If a M can go out I can :P, just to late in the day now to make the miles I need to,

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You have a good boat - if an M can go out you can. Those 26D boats are better too, but if it's going to be uncomfortable and you have the time, why not relax?
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BOAT wrote:You have a good boat - if an M can go out you can. Those 26D boats are better too, but if it's going to be uncomfortable and you have the time, why not relax?
They (the M) were back in about an hour. Later though a X sailed all the way in and up the channel markers to where houses were and turned down a narrow looking (from where I was) canal with the main still up at that point and out of sight from me. I was very impressed. I won't sail into a narrow channel like that, I'd get into a world of hurts real fast but he had everything under control and was single handing.

I'm leaving at first light in the morning as of now and if it gets bad I can get back in at Naples and go the rest of the way on the inland waterway there. Did that before but it takes more time and has heavy traffic and is narrow so I'd like to just enter at Marco Island if I can.

The rest did me good today and I got things more organized on the boat and got Skype working which I hope to be able to use from some locals,

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What kind of an AP do you use? Wheel? Tiller? Any AIS features on the plotter? Does AIS help to dodge the boats? (It's a HUGE help over here crossing to Catalina at night). (Or does no one broadcast out there?) I don't sail east coast, only play one on TV and visit in my motorhome A LOT. One year we traveled in the motorhome from Oceanside to the east coast THREE TIMES! On that trip we camped in St Augustine and that harbor looked like a GREAT place to go sailing - real nice and big and warm with neat things to see just like San Diego Bay. There are a lot more interesting harbors over there than are are over here. You get to see all kinds of neat stuff!

Is that S boat the one that you installed the compressor reefer in or was that a different boat?
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BOAT wrote:What kind of an AP do you use? Wheel? Tiller? Any AIS features on the plotter? Does AIS help to dodge the boats?
The AP is a tiller type (Raymarine 2000ST) and I could send waypoints to it from OpenCPN but don't have it wired for that yet. I knew that withing 3 minutes that this was something we should of bought long ago. I couldn't make this trip hardly without it considering my advancing years. In fact had I know how dependent I was going to become on it I might of bought a back up 'just in case' and still might later. I'd hate to get 500 miles over there and not have it coming back single handed.

The Standard Horizon Gx2100 radio has AIS and it is wired to the computer so I've been seeing AIS targets with the OpenCPN. They show green unless the program feels the CPA is going to be close then the vessel turns red on the screen. It also shows info for the vessel that would be handy if you need to hail them. It seems to be working fine and I'll like having it on the east coast.
BOAT wrote:...Is that S boat the one that you installed the compressor reefer in or was that a different boat?
This boat has an EdgeStar 63 quart compressor type portable fridge (can be used as a freezer also, but not both). I made the fridge on the Endeavour....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner ... index.html

... and yes it is also a compressor type (both air cooled).
BOAT wrote:.... There are a lot more interesting harbors over there than are are over here. You get to see all kinds of neat stuff!....
Yes lots of variety here, like that :) ,

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I've never once heard a person regret putting an autopilot on any boat. I had the exact same reaction: "Why didn't I do this years ago?"

On the plus side, I do know how to helm my boat.
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Sat...03-14-15 ----------------- Ft. Myers Beach to Marco Island

Long day, 41 miles to Marco Island (Factory Bay) all into the waves and south wind in the Gulf. Only saw a couple other sailboats going north or south. 2 foot waves on a 2 second interval. They were ok but the 3 foot sets slowed things down. The boat would ride up on the first one, land on the second one and dive into the third one and drop from 4+ mph to 2+ and then have to accelerate again. Water over the anchors a number of times. I was running south about 4 miles off shore and then decided to go in the cut at Naples and do the rest on the Inland Waterway to Marco.

Going towards shore I was able to get the Genoa out but closed hauled on a starboard tack the tiller pilot would loose control of the boat when it rolled down off a wave to starboard and it would round up so had to give up on the tiller pilot and take over till I got about 1/3 mile off shore. In there the waves weren't near as bad. I found out later from a local that there is an arm of the Gulf Stream that runs south along the west coast about 1 mph and then with the south wind today that stacks the wave up, kind of like what happens in the Gulf Stream on the east coast with a north wind there.

So since things were better I passed the inlet into Naples and continued on closer in but when I made the turn south of Naples for the last 8 miles or so I again had no protection but now the waves were larger, some white-capping but now I could run into them at an angle so things were good. The Mac is a good boat and never once acted like it was in trouble.

This morning I was up at 5 and wanted to leave in the dark from Ft. Myers Beach for practice but couldn't pull the boat to the anchor after pulling in about 25 feet of rode. Then I realize that sitting there for a day with the tidal current changes the rode had wrapped around the center board that I left down a little ways at an angle (usually pull it all the way into the trunk as this happened before :( ). I let the board all the way down but the rode wouldn't pull around or fall off the bottom so used the outboard to reverse in a tight circle and got it unwrapped. By now the sky was getting light in the east so got out with partial darkness. Got to Marco about 12 hours later so only averaged a little over 3 mph. Long day but a good one!!

The last thing I learned was that I'll tie the dinghy along side the leeward side of the boat the next time I'm in these conditions. It probably took on over 25 gallons of water that I had to bail out tonight. I noticed that it is calm on that side of the boat so next time will try tying it up to the lee side.

I took some pictures but I'm beat and have to still eat and get to bed. Plan is go dingy in for gas here tomorrow and also go to West Marine. My friend Scott at the boatyard put a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) on hold at the WM here for me to use and then give to him after the trip. Ruth had made some safety harnesses from Sailrite kits and he loaned me a tether the other day and I used it along with Ruth's harness this morning and the tether works perfect on the 26S as the long side of the tether reaches the far life line and the short side works on the life line on the side you go forward on. Unsnap the one side at the mast and re-snap it ahead of the mast and it stops at the stanchions just ahead of the mast and you can just reach the anchors and rodes. I'm going to get one if they have it also so I can give Scott his back. I need to use it as I'm careless about going forward without even a life jacket, being alone and old now I need to be more careful,

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Thanks for the update..... As I sit here reading this , I am reminded that no matter how well We know some things , that without some practice , sometimes We forget little things :) Hang in there Sumner..... Your gonna be fine :wink: Ron.
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Thanks for the great update Sumner!! It's great to know you're feeling better and getting to enjoy the accomplishments of the trip.
Do you have pics of, or a write-up of, the tethering system jack lines and anchor points you used? Interested as always...

Fair winds and Godspeed!
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============== 3-15-15 ==============Sunday ============Marco Island============
vizwhiz wrote:Thanks for the great update Sumner!! It's great to know you're feeling better and getting to enjoy the accomplishments of the trip.
Do you have pics of, or a write-up of, the tethering system jack lines and anchor points you used? Interested as always...

Fair winds and Godspeed!
I'll get them up at some point. Just back on the boat, gased up (5 gallons yesterday for the 40 miles--worst gas mileage ever). Got the PLB at west marine and a tether for me to keep aboard and a few groceries (first time ashore since last Monday).

Headed to 10,000 Islands in a few minutes, no phone or internet till later in the week,

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Great report Sum. We can live vicariously through you.
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Sunday ========== 03-15-15 =================White Horse Key/10,000 Islands

Can't believe it but cell phone/Hot Spot coverage here now. Must of put up higher towers at Marco Island.

Today was good but with some drama. Got up before sunrise but that isn't saying much since it doesn't get light till 7:30 here :) . Made one trip to Rose Marine and came back with about 12 gallons of gas. The 20 gallon tank took 7 so went back and filled up the empty 5 gallon and 2 gallon again. While there walked the 1/2 mile to West Marine and Publix to get the PLB that Scott had ordered in (thanks again Scott) and also found the same tether that he loaned me and bought one...$170 -- WM pricing. Oh well I guess I'm still worth $170. Picked up a few things at the grocery store but still have 2 months on board so mainly apples and lettuce and bananas. Put them in my little box cart that folds up and has wheels and towed it back to the marina and went out and got the boat ready to leave.

Tried pulling the anchor up at 1 pm and it felt like it was welded to the bottom. It wouldn't budge. I wrapped the chain off tight on a cleat hoping as the boat went up and down on the passing boat's wakes that it would break loose. Still nothing. I figured I much be on someone's lost anchor gear. I was hoping I wasn't going to have to put on my wet suit and go in as you can't see far in this water so tried one last thing. With it snubbed off as tight as I could I motored forward on the outboard and it broke loose or came loose. Very little mud on it so I'm not sure what went on.

Took off on the waterway between Marco and Goodland that has a lot of shallow water on it. Ruth and I had gone through 3 times so I was cocky and thought I'd remember it. I quickly punched in waypoints the night before in OpenCPN and transferred them to the Garmin handheld also. So part way over my waypoints go to port around an Island and channel markers to the right. Thinking the channel markers were going off to something private I of course stayed with my waypoints and a short time later the rudder kicked up and I'm in 2 feet of water where the chart said there was suppose to be about 5. I got turned around on the motor without grounding and went back down and too the 'right channel' which of course is were everyone else was going. I should of taken a little more time the night before. The less than 2 feet of draft on the Mac bailed me out. Being Sunday there was tons of boats on the waterway nothing like when we took it before.

So I get out of Goodland and I'm heading towards the Gulf and there is a nice 5 mph wind and I put the Genoa out and the outboard just above idle and I'm making 5 mph and all is good and the Gulf today is almost flat. I see a crap pot and don't get excited thinking I'll just barely miss it. Wrong the boat comes to a stop as I've snagged the crab pot line. I'm sure it must be on the center board so pull it up and down and go one way and the other not making any progress and thinking about the wet suit again when I decide to trip the rudder up. Rudder goes up and crab pot float surfaces and I'm on my way again. Turn the outboard off and pull it up and I'm moving nicely about 3 1/2 with only about 3 miles to go before I turn into the cut at White Horse. It was a beautiful day the wind was nice so the hull with White Horse for the moment. I turn to starboard and run out into the Gulf a couple miles on a broad reach on just the Genoa (should of put the Main up but was just too beat to do that). After a couple miles turned and sailed right up to the cut into White Horse (out at 4 1/2 and back at 3 1/2 -- nice to not hear the outboard running). With a little more confidence would of sailed onto anchor but I'd had enough drama for one day. Didn't see another sailboat out today down this was and I sit well protected behind a small island with no one around for mile. I love it :) :) .

Time for something simple for dinner and tomorrow I'm make up a stew for the next few days and go ashore to the great beach here and read one of the Travis McGee novels by John MacDonald my sister found for me. I think I have them all and her husband, Gene, said I'd like them so I'll start with the first one.

Right now the weather looks good to make the 40 mile run from here to Little Shark River down in the Everglades on Tuesday and then on Wed. hopefully over to Marathon (Fanny Keys on the Gulf side --- don't like Boot Key Harbor) and then north to Biscayne Bay,

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