A Very Sad MacGregor...

[kmclemore]

I wonder what the person who bid $3,150.00 has in mind for her.

Latest price I could find on a new Suzuki 50hp (DF50TLK3) was $5253.00. And this one appears nearly new, so....

[RandyMoon]

Is it a microwave shelf?

[kmclemore]

Is it a microwave shelf?

Ummm.. well.. was a microwave shelf perhaps, but I don't see any power supply. In any event, the selfish Mac owner failed to post that mod here on our lovely forum, so I think far less of them already.


And as I look at that galley, where the heck is MacGregor getting his supplies lately? That sink/counter unit looks like a 'bath vanity top' right from "Home Depot"... and it ain't their best brand either. Sheesh.

[mike]

Out of curiosity, I wonder what happens to a hull like this after it's stripped of its usable parts. Chop it into small pieces and throw it in a dumpster? Burn it? Sell it to the Navy for target practice?

--Mike

[Terry]

That boat sure took a hit But for the right price there appears to be a lot of spare parts available for an interested dealer, that's over and above the engine.
It definitely has to be an early '04 because the newer '04's have the transome mounted mast crutch. I have an '03 with the pedestal mounted crutch but it does not go right through the pod down to the cockpit floor as in the photos. Mine has a stopper bolt in the bottom of the pod which puts more force on the pedestal cylinder. In fact while rigging last year my pedestal snapped off the flange right at the base on the cockpit deck and I had to get the dealer to repair it under warranty. Must have been a cheap robot weld because after a closer inspection there really was not much of any weld to be found. It was replaced with a beefier one though, but after seeing those photos with the extension to the cockpit deck I wonder if that is not a stronger setup, even if it does shrink the foot room. The transome mount is still the better setup, it even provides the only horizontal mounted stantion for attaching a flag. I still don't have a flag because I only have vertical stantions and it seems none of the big marine stores has anything to accomodate verticle stantions, geuss I'll have to run a line from the spreaders to the deck for flags and burgees. Yes it seems Roger got cheap with the stainless steel on the new models

[Terry]

Sell it to the Navy for target practice?

That made me laugh

[Chip Hindes]

Not sure what somebody said about the owner keeping the trailer for his new boat. As far as we learned in earlier discussions on the subject, Mac won't sell a boat without the trailer as there's no way to ship it; and vice versa.

Though in most states the trailer is titled separately, it's not invoiced separately from the factory. Not a problem in MA apparently, but big hassle for me when I tried to title my new boat, bought in MA, in NY. Took me four phone calls, three trips to DMV, three faxes and two certified letters before the NYDMV was satisfied. The dealer eventually made up separate invoices for each. He arbitrarily set the trailer value at $2K, the boat valued at purchase price minus $2K.

Seems to me $1600 is a reasonable asking price for an almost new trailer, but such a trailer without modification is pretty nigh useless for anything other than a Mac M, so I'm thinking the market for one is vanishiningly small.

[kmclemore]

Sell it to the Navy for target practice?

That made me laugh

Unfortunately that's exactly what they'll be doing with the SS United States soon... I just learned from a very reilable source (in the US Navy, actually) that, despite what the SS United States website says, the plans are firmly in place to use it for Navy target practice and then scuttle it off the coast of New Jersey as a fish reef. What an awful fate for one of our national treasures. This ship, originally launched in 1952, still holds the world record for ocean liners in crossing the Atlantic with an average speed of 35.59 knots, and it's also the largest ocean liner ever built in the US. Sigh.



Now as for disposal of this particular Mac, you're right... chop it into bits and put it in a landfill is the only way to go.

[kmclemore]

Not sure what somebody said about the owner keeping the trailer for his new boat. As far as we learned in earlier discussions on the subject, Mac won't sell a boat without the trailer as there's no way to ship it; and vice versa.

Though in most states the trailer is titled separately, it's not invoiced separately from the factory.

Well, that may be so about Mac proper, but maybe a dealer would sell one without a trailer. In any event, there's no way the insurance company is going to include the trailer in the 'total loss' equasion, so perhaps if the owner isn't getting a replacement Mac, he may be selling the trailer independently to recover a little more cash.

[Zavala]

In any event, there's no way the insurance company is going to include the trailer in the 'total loss' equasion

You're probably right. But if it were me, I think I'd tell the insurance company they could rent MY trailer long enough to sell THEIR boat... just to see what the response was. :^)

[Randy Smith]

I would not want to take this on, nor wish it upon someone.....but out of conversation sake, could She be fixed up? Is it possible to repair damage like this so the boat would look 95% back to her origional beauty? It is really sad............I am not talking adequate repair, good repair....how many hours? Interesting to think about....

[kmclemore]

I would not want to take this on, nor wish it upon someone.....but out of conversation sake, could She be fixed up? Is it possible to repair damage like this so the boat would look 95% back to her origional beauty? It is really sad............I am not talking adequate repair, good repair....how many hours? Interesting to think about....

Hey, sure, if it's fiberglass, it can be fixed. Just depends on how much you want to spend. Molds could be made from existing boats so you could potentially get a near-perfect result in terms of shape, but all said, it would cost a bl**dy fortune!

[Terry Chiccino]

Could I ask a question? If the boat is damaged beyond repair but the motor looks to be brand new, wouldn't the ins. co. just pay for the replacement boat and the owner could/would, keep/use the existing motor for the replacement boat. Or maybey the owner wants to move up to a 70 horse motor?

[kmclemore]

Could I ask a question? If the boat is damaged beyond repair but the motor looks to be brand new, wouldn't the ins. co. just pay for the replacement boat and the owner could/would, keep/use the existing motor for the replacement boat. Or maybey the owner wants to move up to a 70 horse motor?

Insurance companies nearly always scrap the entire boat, including the motor, as one unit. I know it sounds odd, but that's the way it's done. I suppose it could be because there's a potential for 'hidden' damage to the motor involved in the wreck, and no insurance company would want to have a secondary claim resulting from putting that defective motor onto another boat and having it fail, resulting in another accident, loss, death or injury.

[mike]

I would not want to take this on, nor wish it upon someone.....but out of conversation sake, could She be fixed up? Is it possible to repair damage like this so the boat would look 95% back to her origional beauty? It is really sad............I am not talking adequate repair, good repair....how many hours? Interesting to think about....

Hey, sure, if it's fiberglass, it can be fixed. Just depends on how much you want to spend.

Exactly... some guys spent A LOT of money locating, retreiving, and restoring a banged up P-38 Lightning under hundreds of feet of ice in Greenland. Those planes are nearly priceless. On the other hand, why bother putting the money and work into fixing up a totalled sailboat that can be bought brand new for probably less than it would take to do the repair (assuming you assign a monetary value to your time)? Perhaps if a person had some sentimental attachment to this particular boat, they'd be willing to do it. Or, maybe someone who simply enjoys working on boats?

--Mike