Smartphone for navigation?
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darrenj
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
All modern cell phones have GPS and do not require cell to get a position.
On android phones you can select how your phone gets your position. GPS, Cell and or network.
If you are on the water generally I have found that you have to set it to only use GPS or else it tries to place you on land.
There are even apps that will tell you how many satellites you are getting a signal from and how good the signal is.
I use one called GPS Test.
On android phones you can select how your phone gets your position. GPS, Cell and or network.
If you are on the water generally I have found that you have to set it to only use GPS or else it tries to place you on land.
There are even apps that will tell you how many satellites you are getting a signal from and how good the signal is.
I use one called GPS Test.
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drams_1999
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
March,
To answer your question....you do not need a mothership. The gps on your smart phone uses the same satellites in space that are used by all gps units units and chartplotters. It triangulates with the satellites in space. I have also used my phone deep in the everglades where there is no cellular service at all. The gps works fine even when there are no towers or anything else man-made nearby or even when I have my phone on airplane mode, as long as my phone is outdoors and has a line of sight with the sky.
Hope this helps....fair winds.
To answer your question....you do not need a mothership. The gps on your smart phone uses the same satellites in space that are used by all gps units units and chartplotters. It triangulates with the satellites in space. I have also used my phone deep in the everglades where there is no cellular service at all. The gps works fine even when there are no towers or anything else man-made nearby or even when I have my phone on airplane mode, as long as my phone is outdoors and has a line of sight with the sky.
Hope this helps....fair winds.
Re: Smartphone for navigation?
I decided on Navionics on my iPad. Works great. Used it last night to locate the public ramp at 3 AM on a dark night.
- March
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
That makes sense. Thanks, guys. I know what my next phone is going to be now.
- sailboatmike
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
I hear the Samsung Galaxy 7 is good, amd it doubles as a cabin heater 
- Phil M
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
sailboatmike wrote:I hear the Samsung Galaxy 7 is good, amd it doubles as a cabin heater
Not every iPad or every Android tablet had the GPS chip, but now I think most of them do. Some of the cheapest models might cut back and not have the GPS chip. Don't just assume that it's there.
Re: Smartphone for navigation?
The cell phone chip has the GPS in it. If you buy one that is WiFi only you will not have a GPSPhil M wrote:sailboatmike wrote:I hear the Samsung Galaxy 7 is good, amd it doubles as a cabin heater![]()
Not every iPad or every Android tablet had the GPS chip, but now I think most of them do. Some of the cheapest models might cut back and not have the GPS chip. Don't just assume that it's there.
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
I believe you are referring to the Apple iPad. Putting GPS in their more expensive models is just another way for Apple to stick it to their loyal customers.grady wrote: The cell phone chip has the GPS in it. If you buy one that is WiFi only you will not have a GPS
Re: Smartphone for navigation?
I'm not normal...Forewarned.
But i spend my free time looking at Google Earth Images on my phone/PC. PC is better because photos are timestamped.
Anyways I will zoom away for hours scoping waters and inlets, Here in FLA you can basically figure water depth from colors.
Its sort of a hobby of mine and I know where all those sweet spots are...
But i spend my free time looking at Google Earth Images on my phone/PC. PC is better because photos are timestamped.
Anyways I will zoom away for hours scoping waters and inlets, Here in FLA you can basically figure water depth from colors.
Its sort of a hobby of mine and I know where all those sweet spots are...
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- Neo
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
Only a few Apps support Australian Charts. One of those is i-Boating https://goo.gl/pU2mjZ .... You can pre-download the local charts (so only need GPS working) and it supports SailTimer (a bit). I quite like it but if it weren't for the SailTimer support I would have gone for Navionics.
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
Just as a follow up to some of the previous comments regarding iPads, cell chips and GPS...
The iPads without cellular service are WiFi only and thus, have no GPS chip. Why? Because they assume the consumer will be on WiFi and not need a GPS chip. I made this unfortunate discovery about three years ago when I bought my latest iPad. I don't need cellular service for $100 more because I use my phone as a hotspot. When I installed my iPad mount in my bay boat, I was all excited as I was going to be able to toss out my quirky GPSMap 198c in favor of a much "sexier" device with Navionics. Wrong.
So it's not a matter of it being a "cheaper model" albeit technically it's true, it's a matter of having a cellular chip inside or not.
The iPads without cellular service are WiFi only and thus, have no GPS chip. Why? Because they assume the consumer will be on WiFi and not need a GPS chip. I made this unfortunate discovery about three years ago when I bought my latest iPad. I don't need cellular service for $100 more because I use my phone as a hotspot. When I installed my iPad mount in my bay boat, I was all excited as I was going to be able to toss out my quirky GPSMap 198c in favor of a much "sexier" device with Navionics. Wrong.
So it's not a matter of it being a "cheaper model" albeit technically it's true, it's a matter of having a cellular chip inside or not.
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
And yet the much cheaper Android tablets without cellular do have a GPS chip. Sum Tin Wong here.taylormade wrote:Just as a follow up to some of the previous comments regarding iPads, cell chips and GPS...
The iPads without cellular service are WiFi only and thus, have no GPS chip. Why? Because they assume the consumer will be on WiFi and not need a GPS chip. I made this unfortunate discovery about three years ago when I bought my latest iPad. I don't need cellular service for $100 more because I use my phone as a hotspot. When I installed my iPad mount in my bay boat, I was all excited as I was going to be able to toss out my quirky GPSMap 198c in favor of a much "sexier" device with Navionics. Wrong.
So it's not a matter of it being a "cheaper model" albeit technically it's true, it's a matter of having a cellular chip inside or not.
- Neo
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
I made the same discovery so my Wifi iPad is now being used as a door stoptaylormade wrote:The iPads without cellular service are WiFi only and thus, have no GPS chip.
The GPS chip hardware is actually in there. But Apple like to disable these things .... no way around it
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Re: Smartphone for navigation?
Yeah, you're not going to get me into an Android/Apple argument. I was anti-Apple for decades, even resisting the iPods, but when my CEO came to me and told me (IT Director) that we were going to allow iPhones, I got one and haven't looked back. In fact, I'm typing this on a MacBook Air.Phil M wrote:
And yet the much cheaper Android tablets without cellular do have a GPS chip. Sum Tin Wong here.
BTW, I'm a big fan of Sum Ting Wong, We tu lo, and Bang Ding Ow.
