M forestay

[NiceAft]

Anyone have an forestay failure? If so, where was the failure?

Not interested in information; not applicable. The mast rig is different than the ‘s.

Ray

[kurz]

here:
https://www.macgregorsailors.com/forum/ ... =8&t=27357

As far as I know concerning forestay and are same?

[prishi]

Yes, I can put my hand up for this one! I had the forestay pin work adrift from its connection at the CD Furler to the stem of the boat. I can't say how. I had left my boat on moorings and did not visit it for a month as I was on an overseas vacation. When I came back I saw that my Mast had fallen down and had got bent. I had to purchase a new mast. Luckily, this failure happened when nobody was aboard or it could have been devastating! I learnt to have the forestay pin and the forestay in good condition at all times.
Having a preventer is a good idea but I do not have one.

[kurz]

Prishi, I can understand. I had the same: The ringdings disapeared when the was most time alone during the winter. Lukili as I was I just loosed the ringdings and the bolt stayed in place. And it did not concern the forestay but the shrouds. So nothing bad happened.
When I trailered ones for 1000 miles I lost the complete connection from the shroud to the boat becouse the ringdins failed.

So thats the reason old guis say: Secure the ringdings with electric tapes.

And yes: In this summer at a time the block from the line to the main jumt to me... A ringding failed...

[Bobglas]

Ringding somehow came undone at the mooring during rough weather. Mast came down but halyard for the genoa cover prevented total disaster. Genoa cover, bent mast base and frayed forestay were the only major damage. BWY suggested taping the ringding when using.

[Highlander]

I tie-wrap with plastic tie,s all ring dings on my boat & I mean all it helps to keep them from getting caught on any lines which I think is the biggest culprit , most forestay failures I,ve seen r at the top of the mast they seem to fray there due to mast pumping but a swivel there will help that issue if u already have one it also helps the forestay from getting kinked when raising the mast !

[Beaverpilot]

Not a failure as I found it when I took the mast down to trailer. I had four strands unwinding underneath the cdi foil at the top of the mast on the lower nicropress fitting... glad I found it when I did and I didn't de-mast underway.

[Russ]

Ringding somehow came undone at the mooring during rough weather. Mast came down but halyard for the genoa cover prevented total disaster. Genoa cover, bent mast base and frayed forestay were the only major damage. BWY suggested taping the ringding when using.

That could have been much worse. This is why I have a "backup" line to a second mast hound to the pulpit. The forestay seems too fragile.

--Russ

[Russ]

Not a failure as I found it when I took the mast down to trailer. I had four strands unwinding underneath the cdi foil at the top of the mast on the lower nicropress fitting... glad I found it when I did and I didn't de-mast underway.

BWY has upgraded forestays at a reasonable price
https://shop.bwyachts.com/category-s/288.htm


HIGHLANDER, do you have a photo of wire ties?

[kurz]

Well, I dont know if the factory forestay is too fragile. When I had a broken one it hold perfectly with 3 strands... So the load does not seem to be great.

BUT: The problem seems not to be the 3mm diameter but the upper connection to the mast. As the forestay flatters araound the strands begin to break. Every movement port/starboard of the genoa kinks just under the niccopress. I never heard it broke down at the bow.
So my qestion is will a TOGGLE would solve this problem? Or at least an additional small shakle will do the same, I think.

A bigger forestay will suffer of the same abuse. Just will hold longer. But if you do/cannot control will brake of the same reason...???

[Russ]

I replaced mine because fatigue on the strands. They get a lot of flex during launching and trailering and bending can't be good. Bend any wire enough times and it will break. My guess is the very nature of a trailer sailboat causes more fatigue on rigging.
I didn't tighten the mast antenna nut tight enough and the vibrations from the trip home from the lake vibrated it and it came off somewhere along the way. All our rigging must be subjected to this problem.

BWY had a forestay already cut to fit so it was an easy job. At the time they didn't have the heavier one. I may replace it again. Cheaper than a new mast.

[NiceAft]

The BWY forestay is equal to what was supplied by the factory. The difference in cost between the regular BWY forestay and the heavier one is not much. To me it seems wise to get the extra protection for a small difference.

My factory forestay lasted 15 years. I replaced it because I noticed three broken wires.

Ray

[Highlander]

The BWY forestay is equal to what was supplied by the factory. The difference in cost between the regular BWY forestay and the heavier one is not much. To me it seems wise to get the extra protection for a small difference.

My factory forestay lasted 15 years. I replaced it because I noticed three broken wires.

Ray

Come-on Ray u had 13 more strands to go before u got down to that Magic three u coulda just taped up the broken wires for now , hope u kept the old one as a spare for emg.

J
BTW when I added my new Genny forestay too cutter rig I went with 1x36 instead of the 1x19 same dia. but much more flexible

[NiceAft]

Thank you John. I will live life vicariously through you.
Ride em cowboy.

Ray

[Highlander]

Thank you John. I will live life vicariously through you.
Ride em cowboy.

Ray

He Haw

J