Long overdue report

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BillyBobV
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Long overdue report

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I've been working on the motor not starting over the summer and had felt I got it figured out; flooding was the issue.
So we packed up the boat, the boy and headed to the Sacramento River Delta and launched at the county park near Rio Vista around 3 pm. Launching went well, the motor started right up and we backed out into the stream and the motor promptly stopped. After dinking around trying to start it up, while we drifted downstream about a quarter mile, we decided that, "Hey, it's a sailboat, lets sail." and pulled the motor up and cruised downstream. The wind was pretty good, I'm guessing a typical evening breeze for late summer in the Delta, maybe 10 kts or so. We sailed downstream into the current by this time, the part of the river has tidal influence, looking for a place to anchor. We peeked into a side channel outlet about 4.5 miles downstream of the launch but decided to head back to the north (upstream) end of the island formed by that side channel and anchored for the night. We had a pleasant evening looking at the stars, except the boy lost his knife overboard, and slept well. This was my wife's first night on the boat, the boy and I have spent a couple nights on other trips.

In the morning we sailed a little bit further south and then turned around to head back to the boat ramp. We did quite a bit of tacking into the current, but as we made our final approach to the ramp, (we'd lowered our main to de-power the boat and were under just the jib) we got caught in a back current that began moving us upstream of the launch. Fortunately, the boy was in a kayak already being towed along, and he was able to quickly paddle our line up to the dock and bring us in. All without the motor.

This is the second time I've sailed off the ramp without the motor working and I've found it really forces us to learn to sail. :D The wife says she wants the motor running reliably before she goes again, though. :?

On the way down, we explored a couple of barges anchored off a quarry and some dredging operations. We were surprised to see some sealions around the barge, one bull had hauled out onto the mooring buoy and protested our sail by.

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Hi BillyBobV

Great trip and a wonderful area to explore!
We used to live across the way from Rio Vista in the East Bay and camped several times in the area when we had our travel trailer back many years ago with our young family. We really enjoyed it there.

Glad you made the best of the situation and made it a fun adventure. (Temperamental engines are a pain that we can relate to!)

As you already well know that our MacGregors actually can do reasonably well with engines in the 10-15-25-30 HP range if you are ok traveling at lower speeds. Many people on earlier version MacGregors have regularly and happily motored within these engine sizes. It all depends upon what you want to do and enjoy.

We have found that traveling slower has resulted in our actually seeing, appreciating and enjoying our trips more. Being able to maneuver is important and not being stranded are good aspects but fun on the water doesn’t necessarily require going fast. Just our perspective.

Really glad you and your family were able to get out and enjoy the Delta together. Really glad you gave your son the opportunity to be the hero in getting your line to the dock. Kids need those opportunities to help develope and reinforce their sense of self worth and capability.

Hope you continue to enjoy your Mac and the beautiful Delta region regularly!

Best Regards,
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Sounds like a nice trip! Glad you had enough breeze to work with. Keep those reports and pics coming.
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And let us know what the solution to the engine problem is.
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Thanks for sharing the details of your trip, and kudos for managing without the motor. My dad never put a motor on either of our sailboats (point of pride, I think) so we had to learn to get in and out of the marina and our slips without them. Great that your son was positioned and capable in helping get the mooring line to dock.

I have had a few bouts with my otherwise reliable Tohatsu outboard recently. Even without applying throttle or choke, I find at times it stalls and takes a lot of cranking to run the excess gas out. I am considering a few strategies:

1. Disconnect the fuel line from the motor so that pressure from heat expansion in the fuel tank does not force fuel into the motor.
2. If flooding occurs, disconnect the fuel line and get the motor to fire up before re-attaching.

I am finding that most of the time the motor starts right up without any need for throttle or choke.
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Just a suggestion. If your motor has those small drain screws under the carburetor bowl or on the side of the bowl, open it slightly while pumping hand bulb on gas line. If you are not getting a goodly stream of fuel out the drain hole, I suspect that you are having a fuel starvation problem. Usually a motor that starts and idles, but then dies on acceleration is telling you to check the gas tank vent for air, and tank fuel filter, external fuel filter, inside-engine fuel filter, squeeze bulb or fuel hose for dirt, debris or degradation due to ethanol.
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Thanks for the motor repair suggestions, I appreciate them all. I rebuilt the fuel pump, but it wouldn't start except when I sprayed choke cleaner in it, and I ran out of time before I could thoroughly figure it out. Once I was able to get back to it, a week later, I pulled the line off the in side of the fuel pump and charged the gas line until I got gas to that point. It then started right up and seems right now. So, ultimately, I think it was bad fuel pump, and then an air lock in the line. We'll see how it goes next time out, hopefully not a forced sail again.
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