Code C roller Tasker sail / Peak sails Generater

[Sheppie62]

Ok I got ahold of Chris Stevens at Peak Sails. He was very informative about answering my questions about the Generator sail. How it can be used furled or socked. He also explained to me how mounting forward on the bow sprit / installing a spinnaker halyard higher changes the sails shape/ size. He liked the idea of combining the generator with my current jib for heavy/ light wind days. He was very friendly and courteous. He recommended a sock to dose the sail. And said no matter what I would be up on the deck while sailing with either a sock or a furler. I imagined I would raise the Generator on a furler before sailing (at the slip) then unroll as needed. He said a furler is just a lot more expensive. I also looked into Roller Tasker direct sales, they have a Code C cruising sail that seems to fit what I want. Any opinions on this type of sail? I would be putting it on a continuous furler on a bowsprit ahead of the Jib Sail. Any thoughts on what size may work if attached 2-3 ft in front of jib?

[NiceAft]

You could also try UK Sails out of NY. I purchased a high quality roller furler Genoa from them.

https://www.uksailmakers-ne.com/

[PSNA]

Since Peak Sails won’t return my calls or emails I have given up on their Generator sail. I looked into Roller Tasker direct sales, they have a Code C cruising sail that seems to fit what I want. Any opinions on this type of sail? I would be putting it on a continuous furler on a bowsprit ahead of the Jib Sail. Any thoughts on what size may work if attached 2-3 ft in front of jib?

How many "calls" and "emails" did you make? Over how many days?

I live in Florida. Peak is in Port St Lucie which was ground zero for the tropical cyclone that ended up breaking apart on Saturday.

People seem to forget that this is also June, which happens to be one of the busiest months of the year for sailmakers.

Additionally, they cannot pull numbers out of their butts based on the information you provided.

You tell them that the sail is going to be mounted on a sprit with a length of "two to three feet". Are you going to use the existing halyard or add another? If so, where will that be located? What is the maximum hoist based on the sprit length and new halyard?

Instead of ragging on a sailmaker, why don't you do your homework so you can speak with them intelligently in the first place.

[Sheppie62]

They list 2 different sizes for the MacGregor (150-165) I just want to know if they will work for my application. If they got hit by a hurricane then I definitely need a different sail supplier.

[Sheppie62]

Peak Sails may have been hit by a hurricane, or is very busy and cannot answer the phone, and I am not qualified to order a sail , and they may not have time to explain to me how to order a sail, so I have given up on their Generator sail.


Ok I corrected the statement

[Highlander]

Since Peak Sails won’t return my calls or emails I have given up on their Generator sail. I looked into Roller Tasker direct sales, they have a Code C cruising sail that seems to fit what I want. Any opinions on this type of sail? I would be putting it on a continuous furler on a bowsprit ahead of the Jib Sail. Any thoughts on what size may work if attached 2-3 ft in front of jib?

How many "calls" and "emails" did you make? Over how many days?

I live in Florida. Peak is in Port St Lucie which was ground zero for the tropical cyclone that ended up breaking apart on Saturday.

People seem to forget that this is also June, which happens to be one of the busiest months of the year for sailmakers.

Additionally, they cannot pull numbers out of their butts based on the information you provided.

You tell them that the sail is going to be mounted on a sprit with a length of "two to three feet". Are you going to use the existing halyard or add another? If so, where will that be located? What is the maximum hoist based on the sprit length and new halyard?

Instead of ragging on a sailmaker, why don't you do your homework so you can speak with them intelligently in the first place.

Well I phoned these guy,s got a call back about 7 days later told them what I needed & wanted to know about this sail to b sure it was going to fit my specific uses I got two return e/m,s that only covered half the info I was asking about that was a couple months ago sent about 4 e/m,s just asking for more specific details they do not have on their site regarding Sq ft , luff, leach & foot which most sail lofts do when they say they have standing order for spec,s for specific boats listed on their site macgregor was one of them , I checked with a lot of other sail lofts who sell mac sails & they all have smaller specs than my original sails just so as U know ! so after at least a dozen attempts to get my the info I was requesting I started checking Speak sail loft out, they r notoriously nailed for bad customer service , 6 months or more delayed sail orders on most other sailing sites going back the last 3 yrs or more ! before covid ! , so I thought better of giving them my business as I had just experienced the same issue with them .
Do u actually know who owns this sailing loft ? I do after lots of research !
Approx 25% satisfied & 75% dissatisfied customers I took my $$$$ else where thx u very much !
good customer service gets U business , good quality workmanship gaurentee,s return customers & word of mouth of that on ur site by customers is the best & cheapest advertising u can get on the mkt !
I,ve taken rigging classes over the yrs so when I ask specific questions with specific details & I do not get the answers I,m asking for sends bells ringing alarms of in my head ! if u can,t give me them details I,m not going to ask for a quote & I know that can sometimes take 7-10days , if a sail loft wants business a good one knows that about 65% of customers require help & advise & if u r not willing to do that then u do not deserve to b in business period !

Just sayin thats all

J

[PSNA]

I'll bite. Who owns the company?

Before you answer, I live in Florida and met ONE of them at the Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club in Punta Gorda just before the pandemic hit.

Anyone who thinks a sailmaker is going to spend hours each day corresponding with potential clients on technical matters is delusional. Pick up the phone and call! Leave a message if they are busy.

Just look at the original post in this thread. The guy has no idea what length his sprit is, nor can he provide what the max hoist is based on the location of a new halyard running to the sprit. NO sailmaker can make reccos based on this and they will not waste their time attempting to assist by email or by phone for that matter.

What I see here is a bunch of old, cranky Boomers who are impatient and think the world must bow down and genuflect when you want something. Combine that with some who profess to be experts and others who know nothing and you end up with a toxic combination that few wish to deal with.

Go ahead and keep flaming small companies based on hearsay, lack of patience, etc. The sailmaking industry has been devastated over the past three years and if it continues, more and more companies will continue to fail. Eventually, you will be ordering your sails from North or Quantum as they will be what's left to choose from. And when you find that your new sail costs 3 to 4X what it did just four years ago, you can smile and say "I did that".

Speaking of North. Order a new sail and you will receive it in 7 to 9 months. Hyde is 6 months.

[dlandersson]

They don't do this all day?

I'll bite. Who owns the company?

Before you answer, I live in Florida and met ONE of them at the Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club in Punta Gorda just before the pandemic hit.

Anyone who thinks a sailmaker is going to spend hours each day corresponding with potential clients on technical matters is delusional. Pick up the phone and call! Leave a message if they are busy.

Just look at the original post in this thread. The guy has no idea what length his sprit is, nor can he provide what the max hoist is based on the location of a new halyard running to the sprit. NO sailmaker can make reccos based on this and they will not waste their time attempting to assist by email or by phone for that matter.

What I see here is a bunch of old, cranky Boomers who are impatient and think the world must bow down and genuflect when you want something. Combine that with some who profess to be experts and others who know nothing and you end up with a toxic combination that few wish to deal with.

Go ahead and keep flaming small companies based on hearsay, lack of patience, etc. The sailmaking industry has been devastated over the past three years and if it continues, more and more companies will continue to fail. Eventually, you will be ordering your sails from North or Quantum as they will be what's left to choose from. And when you find that your new sail costs 3 to 4X what it did just four years ago, you can smile and say "I did that".

Speaking of North. Order a new sail and you will receive it in 7 to 9 months. Hyde is 6 months.

[PSNA]

Who is they? And what do they do all day?

[Sheppie62]

Ok I got ahold of Chris Stevens at Peak Sails. He was very informative about answering my questions about the Generator sail. How it can be used furled or socked. He also explained to me how mounting forward on the bow sprit / installing a spinnaker halyard higher changes the sails shape/ size. He liked the idea of combining the generator with my current jib for heavy/ light wind days. He was very friendly and courteous. He recommended a sock to dose the sail. And said no matter what I would be up on the deck while sailing with either a sock or a furler. I imagined I would raise the Generator on a furler before sailing (at the slip) then unroll as needed. He said a furler is just a lot more expensive. I cannot imagine leaving a sail with a sock up while sailing with the Jib, but can imagine doing this with a furler. Am I missing something, I’m not racing, would this be unexceptable for day sailing? I realize that it would create drag and interfere with the jibs air flow a bit.

[Highlander]

I'll bite. Who owns the company?

Before you answer, I live in Florida and met ONE of them at the Charlotte Harbor Yacht Club in Punta Gorda just before the pandemic hit.

Anyone who thinks a sailmaker is going to spend hours each day corresponding with potential clients on technical matters is delusional. Pick up the phone and call! Leave a message if they are busy.

Just look at the original post in this thread. The guy has no idea what length his sprit is, nor can he provide what the max hoist is based on the location of a new halyard running to the sprit. NO sailmaker can make reccos based on this and they will not waste their time attempting to assist by email or by phone for that matter.

What I see here is a bunch of old, cranky Boomers who are impatient and think the world must bow down and genuflect when you want something. Combine that with some who profess to be experts and others who know nothing and you end up with a toxic combination that few wish to deal with.

Go ahead and keep flaming small companies based on hearsay, lack of patience, etc. The sailmaking industry has been devastated over the past three years and if it continues, more and more companies will continue to fail. Eventually, you will be ordering your sails from North or Quantum as they will be what's left to choose from. And when you find that your new sail costs 3 to 4X what it did just four years ago, you can smile and say "I did that".

Speaking of North. Order a new sail and you will receive it in 7 to 9 months. Hyde is 6 months.

First off My ! ,
I studied & took rigging courses for over 3 yrs , what have u done & know ? ! , u make disillusion comments about me & other,s on here like u r some kinda god for saken born-again know it all , like we r a bunch of old stupid old guys who don,t know crap & don,t deserve any respect ! , Oh & BTW respect is earned from ur peers not self imposed or appointed by urself like U !, If u r so as knowledgeable as u pretend to B & say U met & know one of the owners then why r u asking me !!! , I am very knowledgeable & do my home work before I contact any sail loft I know that the info I am asking takes only approx 10mins on their computer system programs to confirm so if they can,t do it in that time frame it tells me he knows Sh_t or decides theirs not enough $$$$ in the job to b bothered with 26ft boat vers a 45ft boat or bigger so while I am trying to help older not so knowledgeable fellow sailors on here as that,s what this site is suppose to B all about ? , also maybe read all posts re my comments as I did try to help the said sailor as to his needs as per questions asking for help not Ur disgruntling comments as per say , so please remember to respect us all old or new as we do U , Although I don,t agree with ur opinions I do agree with ur right to express them as I do mine

Do U really believe this crap
What I see here is a bunch of old, cranky Boomers who are impatient and think the world must bow down and genuflect when you want something. Combine that with some who profess to be experts and others who know nothing and you end up with a toxic combination that few wish to deal with.

I,ve more patience than u,ll ever have I have done more mods on my boat for about 1/3rd of the price u,ll ever b able to do because of my knowledge & willing to learn & study over long periods & constant searching for the right price "sale", not bragging here just saying I,m willing to spend the time riding the tide I love negotiating slowly but surely or bartering & fabricating my own Mods from raw materials, like my own designed & fabricated 4ft bowsprit with double anchor roller quoted $3600.00 I made for $500.00 , yes it took time & patience but i already had the knowledge to do this mod & others , so not the stupid old fart u Imply that I am or others on here shame on U !

Lets b good sailors towards each other so as u know u r not the only guy I disagree with on this site , but to each his own

J

[PSNA]

John-

Here is your statement:

"Do u actually know who owns this sailing loft ? I do after lots of research !
Approx 25% satisfied & 75% dissatisfied customers I took my $$$$ else where thx u very much !"

1. Who owns the company?
2. Provide documentation that proves your claim regarding the 25% and 75%.

You may wish to consult with Amber Heard and her attorneys. Libel is getting very expensive these days.

[PSNA]

Johnny-

I could have a field day with your post. However, if I did, I would undoubtedly be canceled.

You asked for my background.

I am a third-generation sailor. During high school and college, I worked at a sail loft in Rhode Island. Started off in the stockroom and eventually was on the floor making sails. Much different process back then.

I have been a contract sail designer for the past fifteen years or so. I am retained by small and large production lofts to design their sails. Most of my work is with the large production operations located in Asia.

I have designed sail plans for several new custom and production boats as well.

It's a small world. One of my past clients was Peak Sails. They came to me about five years ago with their Generator concept. I designed and engineered the sail for them. They still call when they have a big boat sail order that requires another set of eyes prior to cutting cloth.

You may not like or agree with the opinions I post. However, they are based on fact, not supposition.

[Highlander]

OK I,m gonna add some humor hear , so as u don,t git ur knickers in a bind god forbid I,d not want to b the one who,d have to cut them off !






B nice I,d not want the sea gads coming after yer


I still do not agree with all that U say



So I will give u credit if what experience u say U have is true , How do I know u r just not delusional ! or some young whippersnapper sailor



An old man gets on a crowded bus. All the seats are full and he ends up leaning on his cane in front of a young whippersnapper who doesn't offer his seat.

As the bus starts to drive, the man's cane slips out from under him and the man loses his balance. As the bus stops to pick up more passengers, again the cane slips and the old man wobbles around and grasps for the nearest handle. This repeats as the bus makes its next few stops.

Finally the lad looks up at the old man and says "Hey, old man. Y'know, if you'd just put some rubber on the end of your stick, you wouldn't be slipping and falling all the time."

The old man pouts and points at the boy "And if your dad had just put a little rubber on the end of his stick, I wouldn't be stuck standing right now at all, I'd be sitting in that seat."

OK I,ve had my fun now ,
J
PS If u know as much as u say u do why don,t u try helpin the guy to make his right decisions isn't that what we r all here for ?

However, they are based on fact, not supposition.
We disagree again because I think that as long as correspondence works the suppositions of science are being upheld.

[PSNA]

Question: How many narcissists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

Answer: None, they don't use lightbulbs, they use gaslighting.