Ohh don't worry, Chip's constant negativity doesn't deter me...
In fact, after he completely panned the Chene Anchor, I bought this one and 'discovered' it works GREAT. No, I wouldn't use it as my only overnight anchor on anything other than a lake. But, it works great for my current anchoring needs.
I went to my local Harbor Freight last night, but they were out of the pump I wanted to use. While the bilge pump would probably work, I'm kinda leary about tossing it over the side 10-20 feet. I may just try it and see how it goes... This pump supposedly pushes 500 GPH at a 5' head, which will be close to what the head 'should' be... It also looks to be sealed up pretty well...
The other issue I've found is that a suitable radiator looks to be over $50. I'd rather get something like an oil cooler with fins, than just bend copper tubing, like that trash can AC unit that Kevin found recently. As Chip so astutely pointed out, the water isn't going to be his butt-extracted 60-80 degrees cooler than the air. So, I'd like to maximize the heat exchanged, and need the fins for that...
I also know that I won't get 500 GPH out of that pump, pushed through the radiator, because the radiator will have smaller tubes, and will therefore be a restriction... But, it should still be a good flow...
The last issue is that, right now, my big fan is mounted to a hatch board cover. This means that it will be sucking hot outside air through the radiator and into the cabin. This is, obviously, not ideal. It would be much better to close up the cabin and and let the unit slowly drop the temperature of a relatively trapped mass of air...
So, in the next month or so, I'm going to rig this up and see if I can notice a difference with the pump on v. with the pump off. This will tell me if I am truely getting any heat exchange. If I am, I'll figure out a way to mount this inside the boat...
If it doesn't work, them I'm really only out the cost of the radiator, since I really don't mind having a spare bilge pump...
Air conditioner
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ALX357
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cool air is great, and everyone makes his own decisions ....
maybe survival, or the need of air conditioning being a prerequisite of using the boat in hot weather, is the most important consideration,
...... having given that much slack to the use of an air-conditioner, ...
it's a bit much to put that on a boat this size....
not to stretch the point, but where do you stop with the home amenities.
maybe survival, or the need of air conditioning being a prerequisite of using the boat in hot weather, is the most important consideration,
...... having given that much slack to the use of an air-conditioner, ...
it's a bit much to put that on a boat this size....
not to stretch the point, but where do you stop with the home amenities.
I see what Chip usually posts as constant reality, not negativity, and almost posted the same thing he did about poor heat transfer with the reduced temperature differential, before he did.
This will require a lot of surface area and a lot slower air movement over it. Unlike a real air-conditioner, it won't cycle on and off, so the pump draw will be constant.
At 5A, the Harbor Freight pump would consume the optimistically 40% usable capacity of an 85AH Group 24 battery in 6 hours or less, and typically require running an outboard at least 3 hours to replace the power it used in that 6 hours. The 1.4A bilge pump isn't as bad and might give you 10 hours use for 1-2 hours of outboard run time over that needed to replace the fan current.
This will require a lot of surface area and a lot slower air movement over it. Unlike a real air-conditioner, it won't cycle on and off, so the pump draw will be constant.
At 5A, the Harbor Freight pump would consume the optimistically 40% usable capacity of an 85AH Group 24 battery in 6 hours or less, and typically require running an outboard at least 3 hours to replace the power it used in that 6 hours. The 1.4A bilge pump isn't as bad and might give you 10 hours use for 1-2 hours of outboard run time over that needed to replace the fan current.
NEVER Stop...
I have a TV/DVD/Radio. I have a real compressor driven fridge. I have a coffee maker. I have a blender.
In the near future, I may have a passable A/C unit.
All run on DC...
I already have an AC powered A/C unit (hopefully that makes sense).
I enjoy these little projects.
I used to be an industrial control system engineer. It was very satisfying to engineer, both hardware and software, a system to control various forces of nature and big monster machines. I got to think though a problem, come up with a solution, implement and tweak it until the system performed as we wanted....
Now, I push paper... So, these little boat projects gives me that sense of hands-on accomplishment...
To me, the boat is a weekend cabin on the water... So, the more amenities I can stuff into her, the more comfortable those weekends are... Besides, I've done more 'roughing it', in the Army, than most people will ever care to do...
I have a TV/DVD/Radio. I have a real compressor driven fridge. I have a coffee maker. I have a blender.
In the near future, I may have a passable A/C unit.
All run on DC...
I already have an AC powered A/C unit (hopefully that makes sense).
I enjoy these little projects.
I used to be an industrial control system engineer. It was very satisfying to engineer, both hardware and software, a system to control various forces of nature and big monster machines. I got to think though a problem, come up with a solution, implement and tweak it until the system performed as we wanted....
Now, I push paper... So, these little boat projects gives me that sense of hands-on accomplishment...
To me, the boat is a weekend cabin on the water... So, the more amenities I can stuff into her, the more comfortable those weekends are... Besides, I've done more 'roughing it', in the Army, than most people will ever care to do...
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ALX357
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it really is satisfying to have things the way one wants them.
....'didn't mean to disrespect anyone's abilities, methods, or way of recreation. I would want air conditioning too, of course, if it seemed to fit into the boat's capabilities, but i'd have to copy the work of someone esle more experienced and talented with engineering systems, and be satisifed that the system was practical, not too cumbersome, and worth the $ cf. my priorities.
....'didn't mean to disrespect anyone's abilities, methods, or way of recreation. I would want air conditioning too, of course, if it seemed to fit into the boat's capabilities, but i'd have to copy the work of someone esle more experienced and talented with engineering systems, and be satisifed that the system was practical, not too cumbersome, and worth the $ cf. my priorities.
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Frank C
THAT'S the SPIRIT, DLT! But, considering so many disadvantages:DLT wrote: ... While the bilge pump would probably work, I'm kinda leary about tossing it over the side 10-20 feet.
... pump supposedly pushes 500 GPH at a 5' head, also looks to be sealed up pretty well...
... So, I'd like to maximize the heat exchanged, and need the fins for that...
... won't get 500 GPH out of that pump, pushed through the radiator,
... better to close up the cabin and and let the unit slowly drop the temperature of a relatively trapped mass of air...
... If it doesn't work, them I'm really only out the cost of the radiator, since I really don't mind having a spare bilge pump...
- - that the temperature delta isn't terrific
- air thru the heat exchanger isn't very efficient
- deeper water provides best temperature delta
........... THEN, it seems BEST if
- get the deepest water possible (at lowest wattage)
- use the most air volume possible
- as you observed, recycle the air
To each his own, but for us, boating is an outdoor activity, and with that view, we feel it's better to get acclimated to the heat and not to subject oneself to large temperature swings. That's why we often tent camp when spending several days on the Whaler or the Harley. It's a lot harder to leave an air-conditioned room and begin the days activities when we go that route, and it makes the heat seem worse. This discussion brought back some memories I'll share with those who care to read it, a nostalgic history of adapting to heat and humidity.
I grew up in Pensacola, Florida without air-conditioning, and spent the summers working in the garden that fed us, caring for livestock and poultry, hunting (or killing varmits), fishing, sailing, and diving. We got a little sea breeze during the day, which helped a little, and working in the heat was just something we got used to. What I remember most was the heat at night, probably in part due to the land breeze. Paddle fans on the ceiling in every room helped a lot. Much of our furniture was weaved cane to allow air circulation, and where there were cushions, they were only on the chair bottom, and the foam rubber had holes punched through to allow heat to escape. Innerspring mattresses with brass air vents around the perimeter were cooler than foam or felt mattresses. Carpeting and draperies were just humidity-holding mildew farms, so wood floors and venetian blinds were popular. Closets sometimes had louvered doors and spacing clothes hangers 2" apart helped prevent mildew, which could be a constant problem, especially on leather and in the bathroom. We didn't, but some had tall ceilings with double-hung windows that could be opened a bit at the top to allow heat to escape and at the bottom to allow fresh air in to replace it. Many of those homes had transoms over the interior doors. Roof eaves were large to shade the windows during the day, and some folks had canvas or metal awnings over them, especially on the south and west sides. These also allowed the windows to remain open during the almost daily thunderstorms. Shade was priceless during the day, as was a breeze both day and night, and sitting out under the trees or grape arbor, or on big front porch, was as good as it got when not on the water. Swings and gliders helped provide a little breeze when the wind didn't. Bugs were often bad, and many of those porches were screened. Cooking outdoors was popular to keep heat out of the house, and some of the older houses, like my grandparents', had a dedicated building that was an outdoor kitchen. Washing machines were often on the back porch, carport, or in an outside laundry building, and many who did have a clothes dryer kept it outdoors, and often used a clothesline anyway. People sometimes went to the movie theaters to escape the heat, and they advertised their air-conditioning in letters as large as the movie title. Before churches caught on to doing that for attendance, they handed out those cardboard on a wood stick fans with religious pictures printed on them to the congregation. The old people wore long sleeves even in the summer and had we been smarter, we would've too. Some of the girls I grew up with, especially those around the beaches, looked like the California Raisins by the time they were 30. Many folks wore hats back then, especially straw, and cork pith helmets weren't unusual. The mail carriers wore them as did some "civilians."
We apply some of these things to our Mac, especially shade/UV protection, breeze, and bug screens. We just picked up another silver tarp. Barb wants an outdoor grill to reduce heat in the cabin. I was really proud of her sticking it out in the 105-115 heat index days our last weekend on the water. I'd like to have something over the foam mattress pads that would allow circulation and reduce their insulating effect. Sleeping on top of the comforter helps a little bit that way. The absolute best thing we could do now to handle the heat is lose some weight! Although many hard-core RV boondockers shun our two generator power hog Airstream setup, we're trying to take their minimalist approach with the Mac. That includes the manual coffee grinder and probably most, if not all LED lighting by next year. We'll stick with ice for refrigeration rather than the 85 amp-hours minimum used by a refrigerator over 5 days. We're getting a Davis WindScoop to try to help the breeze, but won't give up our low-amperage fan. Might even get another.
Anyway, different strokes for different folks, but this is why we answered No to the poll.
I grew up in Pensacola, Florida without air-conditioning, and spent the summers working in the garden that fed us, caring for livestock and poultry, hunting (or killing varmits), fishing, sailing, and diving. We got a little sea breeze during the day, which helped a little, and working in the heat was just something we got used to. What I remember most was the heat at night, probably in part due to the land breeze. Paddle fans on the ceiling in every room helped a lot. Much of our furniture was weaved cane to allow air circulation, and where there were cushions, they were only on the chair bottom, and the foam rubber had holes punched through to allow heat to escape. Innerspring mattresses with brass air vents around the perimeter were cooler than foam or felt mattresses. Carpeting and draperies were just humidity-holding mildew farms, so wood floors and venetian blinds were popular. Closets sometimes had louvered doors and spacing clothes hangers 2" apart helped prevent mildew, which could be a constant problem, especially on leather and in the bathroom. We didn't, but some had tall ceilings with double-hung windows that could be opened a bit at the top to allow heat to escape and at the bottom to allow fresh air in to replace it. Many of those homes had transoms over the interior doors. Roof eaves were large to shade the windows during the day, and some folks had canvas or metal awnings over them, especially on the south and west sides. These also allowed the windows to remain open during the almost daily thunderstorms. Shade was priceless during the day, as was a breeze both day and night, and sitting out under the trees or grape arbor, or on big front porch, was as good as it got when not on the water. Swings and gliders helped provide a little breeze when the wind didn't. Bugs were often bad, and many of those porches were screened. Cooking outdoors was popular to keep heat out of the house, and some of the older houses, like my grandparents', had a dedicated building that was an outdoor kitchen. Washing machines were often on the back porch, carport, or in an outside laundry building, and many who did have a clothes dryer kept it outdoors, and often used a clothesline anyway. People sometimes went to the movie theaters to escape the heat, and they advertised their air-conditioning in letters as large as the movie title. Before churches caught on to doing that for attendance, they handed out those cardboard on a wood stick fans with religious pictures printed on them to the congregation. The old people wore long sleeves even in the summer and had we been smarter, we would've too. Some of the girls I grew up with, especially those around the beaches, looked like the California Raisins by the time they were 30. Many folks wore hats back then, especially straw, and cork pith helmets weren't unusual. The mail carriers wore them as did some "civilians."
We apply some of these things to our Mac, especially shade/UV protection, breeze, and bug screens. We just picked up another silver tarp. Barb wants an outdoor grill to reduce heat in the cabin. I was really proud of her sticking it out in the 105-115 heat index days our last weekend on the water. I'd like to have something over the foam mattress pads that would allow circulation and reduce their insulating effect. Sleeping on top of the comforter helps a little bit that way. The absolute best thing we could do now to handle the heat is lose some weight! Although many hard-core RV boondockers shun our two generator power hog Airstream setup, we're trying to take their minimalist approach with the Mac. That includes the manual coffee grinder and probably most, if not all LED lighting by next year. We'll stick with ice for refrigeration rather than the 85 amp-hours minimum used by a refrigerator over 5 days. We're getting a Davis WindScoop to try to help the breeze, but won't give up our low-amperage fan. Might even get another.
Anyway, different strokes for different folks, but this is why we answered No to the poll.
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RandyMoon
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It is different strokes for different folks.
I grew up in Sarasota Fla without air conditioning. I wish it had been around back then. My Admiral grew up in Kansas with air conditioning. Neither of us want to go out and baste in the heat and then not be able to sleep at night.
So our sailing is to get out there early and then beat it back to the marina before the temp gets to the baste stage. We would like to spend the weekend out at our marina/sailing club but I am not going to sit in a hot box and sweat all night (our house is 20 minutes away).
Lucky for me, there were inventive individuals who understood the principles of compression and expansion of gas and they created air conditioning. I am going to take advantage of it. Walmart and Sears are my friend.
If there are those who relish the honor of sweating in a hot boat when they are not out sailing, then that is their right and more power to them. Personally, I'd rather apply power to a condensor unit, drink some brew and have a comfortable experience.
Different strokes for different folks.
I grew up in Sarasota Fla without air conditioning. I wish it had been around back then. My Admiral grew up in Kansas with air conditioning. Neither of us want to go out and baste in the heat and then not be able to sleep at night.
So our sailing is to get out there early and then beat it back to the marina before the temp gets to the baste stage. We would like to spend the weekend out at our marina/sailing club but I am not going to sit in a hot box and sweat all night (our house is 20 minutes away).
Lucky for me, there were inventive individuals who understood the principles of compression and expansion of gas and they created air conditioning. I am going to take advantage of it. Walmart and Sears are my friend.
If there are those who relish the honor of sweating in a hot boat when they are not out sailing, then that is their right and more power to them. Personally, I'd rather apply power to a condensor unit, drink some brew and have a comfortable experience.
Different strokes for different folks.
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ALX357
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SO please do continue to post ideas and solutions working toward compact, low power-consumption, efficient, and effective air conditioners. 
Ideal unit - fits in unused space of boat, maybe in stowage near front, and low, run on 12VDC, or maybe 24VDC, as well as shore power, has its own little condensation water collection and pump, be quiet, blow air thru interior vents, exhaust heat thru an exit vent, and be no bigger/heavier than enough to cool the cabin of a Mac, (maybe even with a cockpit enclosure, but that might be impractical. )
Make it like that, and i bet most sailors in the warmer climes would consider getting one.
Market it and make $ after selling the first thousand units.
Ideal unit - fits in unused space of boat, maybe in stowage near front, and low, run on 12VDC, or maybe 24VDC, as well as shore power, has its own little condensation water collection and pump, be quiet, blow air thru interior vents, exhaust heat thru an exit vent, and be no bigger/heavier than enough to cool the cabin of a Mac, (maybe even with a cockpit enclosure, but that might be impractical. )Make it like that, and i bet most sailors in the warmer climes would consider getting one.
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Mark Prouty
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I never use air conditioning because I remember what a hot summer was all about. Let me tell you about one hot summer.
One year, it was hot even early in the season. I remember when I came home from school one day early that year. I was about seven years old. When I walked into the house, I heard my Daddy yelling out, "Mark we are going to be riiich, riiich, riiich! Son, we are going to raise pop corn!"
We had five acres to grow pop corn. Thats about the size of somewhere between two and three city blocks. Pop corn growing in the field looks like a regular field of sweet corn. Just looking at corn growing in the field, you cant hardly tell the difference.
Before the pop corn was full grown, we had problems. The heat in the middle of the day was so hot that little pieces would pop. Our mule was pulling a weeder one day. She saw so much white popped pop corn that she would not leave the barn without both her winter blanket and her ear muffs.
Finally, the pop corn was ready and we pulled all the ears off the stalks and stored them in our barn. We had a huge, round shaped barn the size of a basketball court and about just as high covered with a round tin roof. My dad would store his sailboat there in the winter. We filled that barn right up to the ceiling with ears of pop corn.
To give you an idea on how hot that summer was. I remember going outside and having to carry an umbrella. The flies were falling out of the air from heat stroke just like rain drops. On the fifth of July it began to rain. It rained for three weeks and not one drop touched the ground. The rain turned to steam. That wasnt the worst part. The steam turned to fog so thick that if you were caught in it, you almost drowned. The fog bank hung from about eight feet in the air down to about two feet above the ground. Either you swam along the top or you crawled on your tummy on the ground underneath. After three weeks, I noticed that the trees and the crops in the field had stuck their roots up out of the ground and into the air to get some water. I wonder how a Mac would have sailed back then.
During the middle of this fog experience, our Pa asked us to finish putting the shingles on the east side of the barn. He had cut up a garden hose about four feet long. We could tie and hold one end of the hose in our mouth with the other below the fog and breath while we worked.
The fog by then was so thick, you had to reach out and pull open a crack. Step through quickly then hold the crack open so that the next person could step through. Then they would open and hold the next split place for you.
It was slow moving around outside but we did the job. The only problem was later when the fog finely cleared. We had nailed the shingles 12 feet past the end of the barn. I know that is hard to believe but we had nailed the shingles on the fog without realizing it. That is thick fog.
Our mail carrier, had been away from home when the fog came in. When he got back to his place, he drove out on top of the fog over to some cleared land he owned and planted thirty trees. Later after the fog was gone, he found the trees all laying on the ground. He told us how hard he had worked digging holes to plant the trees. He did not know he had driven over on top of the fog and dug in a fog bank so thick he never touched the ground!
Toward the end, things got really difficult in the towns because we could not move the crops from the farms into the towns and cities for the people. Food shortages began to become a problem. The Army Corps of Engineers hired lumber jacks from the North West. They come into the and cut the fog up on the roads and highways. Sections of fog were stacked on the side of the roads just like cord wood. After several months the stacks of fog settled into the ground. In places, the fog was stacked so high that, even after settling into the ground, it never dried up. Thats where the fog left permanent soft spots. You have seen the signs, but probably did not know what they meant. The next time you are driving
in the Wisconsin, look for the state road department signs that say BEWARE SOFT SHOULDERS.
One day that summer, the wind was blowing through the barn. The sun was beating down on the round tin roof. At noon time, for lunch, we could eat hot dog or hamburger raw, go outdoors and in twenty
minutes it would cook in our stomach.
Meanwhile, the ears of corn began to dehydrate and shrink up some. The corn husks turned brown. Instead of being hard packed the ears of pop corn became loose packed. The wind blowing through the old barn caused the ears of pop corn to rub against each other. Rub your hands together. Do you feel them getting warm? That is called friction. I had just stepped outside our cabin when I heard a snap, crackle and pop! I turned toward the barn. BAAWOOM! The barn blew up! The tin roof looked like a giant Frisbee flying out into the woods. Rising from the walls ofthe barn was a humongous, fantastically huge, whopping column of white popping pop corn. The column was as big around as a school building! The column rose up above the giant oak tree. You may not believe this, but in fact, by the time the column stopped rising, it took two people to see the top and that is really high.
The wind started blowing the white popped pop corn off the top of the column. Next the white popped pop corn began to sprinkle down over the pasture. We had ten of the most wacky, dotty, sappy, foolish cows you have ever seen. The pop corn started to fall on them. Those silly cows had never seen white popped pop corn and thought they were in the middle of a snow storm blizzard. Its not funny! Seven of those crazy cows froze to death and the other three gave off ice cream for the next six weeks. If I hadnt a seen it myself, I would never have believed it.
In conclusion, I know what it is to be hot. After all my experiences with the heat, I would never be wimpy enough to get an air conditioner for my Mac. Heck, you wimps with air conditioners have no idea what it is like have a burger cook in your stomach. Id never want to experience it again but the recent Mac summers arent nearly that hot!!
One year, it was hot even early in the season. I remember when I came home from school one day early that year. I was about seven years old. When I walked into the house, I heard my Daddy yelling out, "Mark we are going to be riiich, riiich, riiich! Son, we are going to raise pop corn!"
We had five acres to grow pop corn. Thats about the size of somewhere between two and three city blocks. Pop corn growing in the field looks like a regular field of sweet corn. Just looking at corn growing in the field, you cant hardly tell the difference.
Before the pop corn was full grown, we had problems. The heat in the middle of the day was so hot that little pieces would pop. Our mule was pulling a weeder one day. She saw so much white popped pop corn that she would not leave the barn without both her winter blanket and her ear muffs.
Finally, the pop corn was ready and we pulled all the ears off the stalks and stored them in our barn. We had a huge, round shaped barn the size of a basketball court and about just as high covered with a round tin roof. My dad would store his sailboat there in the winter. We filled that barn right up to the ceiling with ears of pop corn.
To give you an idea on how hot that summer was. I remember going outside and having to carry an umbrella. The flies were falling out of the air from heat stroke just like rain drops. On the fifth of July it began to rain. It rained for three weeks and not one drop touched the ground. The rain turned to steam. That wasnt the worst part. The steam turned to fog so thick that if you were caught in it, you almost drowned. The fog bank hung from about eight feet in the air down to about two feet above the ground. Either you swam along the top or you crawled on your tummy on the ground underneath. After three weeks, I noticed that the trees and the crops in the field had stuck their roots up out of the ground and into the air to get some water. I wonder how a Mac would have sailed back then.
During the middle of this fog experience, our Pa asked us to finish putting the shingles on the east side of the barn. He had cut up a garden hose about four feet long. We could tie and hold one end of the hose in our mouth with the other below the fog and breath while we worked.
The fog by then was so thick, you had to reach out and pull open a crack. Step through quickly then hold the crack open so that the next person could step through. Then they would open and hold the next split place for you.
It was slow moving around outside but we did the job. The only problem was later when the fog finely cleared. We had nailed the shingles 12 feet past the end of the barn. I know that is hard to believe but we had nailed the shingles on the fog without realizing it. That is thick fog.
Our mail carrier, had been away from home when the fog came in. When he got back to his place, he drove out on top of the fog over to some cleared land he owned and planted thirty trees. Later after the fog was gone, he found the trees all laying on the ground. He told us how hard he had worked digging holes to plant the trees. He did not know he had driven over on top of the fog and dug in a fog bank so thick he never touched the ground!
Toward the end, things got really difficult in the towns because we could not move the crops from the farms into the towns and cities for the people. Food shortages began to become a problem. The Army Corps of Engineers hired lumber jacks from the North West. They come into the and cut the fog up on the roads and highways. Sections of fog were stacked on the side of the roads just like cord wood. After several months the stacks of fog settled into the ground. In places, the fog was stacked so high that, even after settling into the ground, it never dried up. Thats where the fog left permanent soft spots. You have seen the signs, but probably did not know what they meant. The next time you are driving
in the Wisconsin, look for the state road department signs that say BEWARE SOFT SHOULDERS.
One day that summer, the wind was blowing through the barn. The sun was beating down on the round tin roof. At noon time, for lunch, we could eat hot dog or hamburger raw, go outdoors and in twenty
minutes it would cook in our stomach.
Meanwhile, the ears of corn began to dehydrate and shrink up some. The corn husks turned brown. Instead of being hard packed the ears of pop corn became loose packed. The wind blowing through the old barn caused the ears of pop corn to rub against each other. Rub your hands together. Do you feel them getting warm? That is called friction. I had just stepped outside our cabin when I heard a snap, crackle and pop! I turned toward the barn. BAAWOOM! The barn blew up! The tin roof looked like a giant Frisbee flying out into the woods. Rising from the walls ofthe barn was a humongous, fantastically huge, whopping column of white popping pop corn. The column was as big around as a school building! The column rose up above the giant oak tree. You may not believe this, but in fact, by the time the column stopped rising, it took two people to see the top and that is really high.
The wind started blowing the white popped pop corn off the top of the column. Next the white popped pop corn began to sprinkle down over the pasture. We had ten of the most wacky, dotty, sappy, foolish cows you have ever seen. The pop corn started to fall on them. Those silly cows had never seen white popped pop corn and thought they were in the middle of a snow storm blizzard. Its not funny! Seven of those crazy cows froze to death and the other three gave off ice cream for the next six weeks. If I hadnt a seen it myself, I would never have believed it.
In conclusion, I know what it is to be hot. After all my experiences with the heat, I would never be wimpy enough to get an air conditioner for my Mac. Heck, you wimps with air conditioners have no idea what it is like have a burger cook in your stomach. Id never want to experience it again but the recent Mac summers arent nearly that hot!!
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craiglaforce
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- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: Houston, Tx
DLT,
Neat looking anchor, How much does it weigh and how to you store it?
Looks like an exellent idea for snag prone areas.
Speaking of air conditioners, my big one finaly arrived, haven't had a chance to look at it yet other than to bring it in the house. It is bigger and heavier than I thought. It might be relegated to occassionally cooling the garage. Since i have several little window units, I might try that idea out in the companionway after all. as long as I can step over it.
Neat looking anchor, How much does it weigh and how to you store it?
Looks like an exellent idea for snag prone areas.
Speaking of air conditioners, my big one finaly arrived, haven't had a chance to look at it yet other than to bring it in the house. It is bigger and heavier than I thought. It might be relegated to occassionally cooling the garage. Since i have several little window units, I might try that idea out in the companionway after all. as long as I can step over it.
Craig,
That anchor is pretty light, but I don't know how much it weighs. I store it in the anchor locker just fine. Length and/or width are simply not an issue as it is relatively small. Due to the wierd shank, depth is actually more of an issue. But, after a little wiggling to get the shank to settle down in between some rode, it fits just fine...
Keep you eyes peeled for my AC powered A/C mounted in a hatch door!!!
My previous A/C unit, that was mounted in a hatch board, died. But, I had bought the replacement warranty. So, I pulled it out of the board and took it back to Lowes. By the way, they are now selling them for $60 (but go ahead and buy the extended warranty!). Anyway, while deeply into all this work, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my mounting system while I was at it...
I'm using 3/4 higher grade plywood (ouch, a 2'x4' piece cost ~$15). This is way more strength than needed for a basic hatch board replacement. But, I'm going to make it so the A/C can swing out, like a door, and therefore needed more strength...
I'll post a new mod when I get it finished...
By the way, I almost went the portable A/C route. But, the ones I looked at in the stores were all too big and pretty heavy. I figured if it was going to be that inconvient moving ti in and out or take up that much if permanently mounted...
When the bilge pump arrives, and I settle on a radiator, I'll get to testing that DC powered 'cooler'...
That anchor is pretty light, but I don't know how much it weighs. I store it in the anchor locker just fine. Length and/or width are simply not an issue as it is relatively small. Due to the wierd shank, depth is actually more of an issue. But, after a little wiggling to get the shank to settle down in between some rode, it fits just fine...
Keep you eyes peeled for my AC powered A/C mounted in a hatch door!!!
My previous A/C unit, that was mounted in a hatch board, died. But, I had bought the replacement warranty. So, I pulled it out of the board and took it back to Lowes. By the way, they are now selling them for $60 (but go ahead and buy the extended warranty!). Anyway, while deeply into all this work, I decided to go ahead and upgrade my mounting system while I was at it...
I'm using 3/4 higher grade plywood (ouch, a 2'x4' piece cost ~$15). This is way more strength than needed for a basic hatch board replacement. But, I'm going to make it so the A/C can swing out, like a door, and therefore needed more strength...
I'll post a new mod when I get it finished...
By the way, I almost went the portable A/C route. But, the ones I looked at in the stores were all too big and pretty heavy. I figured if it was going to be that inconvient moving ti in and out or take up that much if permanently mounted...
When the bilge pump arrives, and I settle on a radiator, I'll get to testing that DC powered 'cooler'...
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craiglaforce
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- Sailboat: MacGregor 26X
- Location: Houston, Tx
Tried out the big air conditioner in the garage today. Spent a lot of time trying to figure out why the compressor would only run for a couple minutes then shut off for about 10 minutes. I was using an orange 50 ft extension cord and I guess there was too much voltage drop and the motor overloads were overheating. Switched to a heavier shorter cord and it works fine now. I think it will stay in the garage and I will try a cheap window A/C in the hatch of the boat. Doesn't really seem to cool the garage that much even with its 9000 btu rating. But I only got it working after the temps were in the mid 90s .
Just to stir up this thread and continue the search for the AC hole gail...
Has anyone seen/heard of/tried this unit:
http://www.bayairac.com/
Tough guys who like heat and humidity need not reply.
Has anyone seen/heard of/tried this unit:
http://www.bayairac.com/
Tough guys who like heat and humidity need not reply.
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Frank C
